I have read several posts/comments about next year being the Ingenieur year. Being a Ingenieur lover myself, I am wondering.....
What do we know about what is to be expected? cal. 80110/80111, steel, titanium, dials, casebacks, ......
Waiting impatiently...
Best Regards,
Melchior
Day & date please, but with a rugged in-house movement and anti-magnetic? Perhaps looking like the current Vintage Inge?
From the movement point of view I don't expect anything new, the existing movements are more than good enough. From the looks department I expect about all the Ingenieurs to look like the titanium Ingenieur Double Chrono, that is, a bit less edgy. Some of the models, like the Automatic, I expect to appear with a titanium case, and having an antimagnetic cage. As the case will be about 46 mm a single date will look fairly small and centered because of the 80110 movement, maybe here also a triple date will appear. But of course, this all is purely guessing...
Kind regards,
Paul
my guess is - whatever titanium models that have been released - snap them up, because I highly doubt there will be too many titanium editions released in the immediate future, given the difficulty of making titanium case and parts.
again, my guess only, without being privy to any inside information or hearsay.
Shing - there is more than one manufacturer who has titanum editions in his collection since many years, and they do not have any difficulties in producing them. So, I guess it is purely a question of "fashion" if IWC will have titanum editions in the future or not. They had several of them in the past, stopped producing them during some time span as nobody bought them, and now they restarted.
I would like to see something truly innovative.
As any long time reader of the forum knows, I love titanium- and I also wish we would see more use of this from IWC in the future. In the meantime I'll enjoy the ones I do have.
Nelson
My guess is a more radical redesign. Along with softening the edgy look, a move to a lug that accepts a non-proprietary strap.
Magic 8 ball...yes or no ?
Andy
I would disagree - I am making this point not with regards to 'other manufacturers', but this particular one who hosts our forum. I am well aware of what some other brands do - one favorite brand of mine based in Le Locle has long made titanium watches - but that is besides the point of discussion.
Hi Shing, when I last toured the new case manufactory in Neuhausen, I asked about titanium fabrication. If I recall correctly, one of the managers said that the fabrication was the same, but there was an increased risk of fire due to the heat involved. I think that's controllable and not a huge additional expense, and the main difference here is style (better polishing appearance on steel). But you're both right.
One of the benefits of titanium is lower weight. But in the last few years IWC has only produced a fairly limited amount of titanium watches. Is it possible that the marketing of heavier watches made and engineered for men dictates the limited use of titanium?
hmmm. interesting point. of all my titanium watches, my IWC ref 376501 is the heaviest (perhaps because it is the largest?), though compared to other current edition IWCs i have it is relatively lighter.
well - as a lover of titanium, I really dig its lightness ! a few friends joining in here...
No titanium please ( at least not for me ) and no triple dates at all. I'd love to see the ME available with carbon dial, single or no date, but keep the size and weight. And better lume, the hands ( superluminova ) are a bit short to read them at a glance at night. The tension mounts...
The 60th anniversary of the birth of the Ingenieur is very close!
I wish to IWC to find furher inspiration by this recurrence.
Being an owner of a titanium Ingenieur CLS 55 myself, I asked the tour guide about titanium watches when I was visiting Schaffhausen. I like titanium myself, being light and also a bit different in colour than steel. The tour guide explained that IWC does not make lots of titanium watch cases because of the costs. He told me that IWC mostly makes a loss on selling titanium watches because the production costs are more than the benefits.
Anyway, I hope for a spectacular line of Ingenieurs with anti magnetic innner cases, as it should be. But please.... don't loose the drill holes in the bezel. It belongs to a genuine Ingenieur!
Best regards,
Melchior
Hoping for for something with a somewhat reduced, say 43mm diameter.
Kind regards,
Marinus
The weight issue you are referring to is a very easy one to fix with a true Ingenieur - put a nice heavy iron Faraday cage around the movement and you get a weighty watch that is a little lighter than the SS / precious metal equivalent :) . I was surprised by how heavy my 3227 AMG is - it is Titanium which you expect to be nice and light but the addition of the Faraday cage makes it a very comfortable weight. I have not felt the SS 3227's but if the cas eis anything like the current Aquatimer, the combination of a SS case with iron inners will leave you walking around with one arm bigger than the other!
Either way, I am sure we will all be very happy with what IWC releases. If the recent spate of special Vintage Collection Ingenieur's is anything to go by, we should see some special watches in the next few months.
Cheers,
Ben
What I would like to see, is a more elegant, less of a tool watch, Ingenieur. A watch that would be somewhat more reasonably priced alternative to watches like Patek Nautilus and AP Royal Oak.
The current 80110 calibre is a problem because of its excessive thickness. If a completely new calibre is too much to ask, then make a manually wound, no date version of it to slim it down at least 2mm. That would enable a 42mm magnetically shielded case of no more than 12mm height. Without magnetic shield a 10mm case height would be possible.
That question I've asked myself quite several times.
I appreciate and expect the Ingenieur line to be the next one to be renewed because last complete innovation was in 2005! None of the models from that time still exists. I hope the Big Ingenieur Chrono will stay because I love that one but you rarely see it in an IWC dealer's window. I expect a strong Ingenieur line identity like we recently saw in the Pilot's collection, the Portofino and the Portuguese.
I'm very keen on seeing what will be the novelties in 2013.
The Ingenieur is one of the most underrated lines of the IWC collection with enormous potential. I'm sure from 2013 the Ingenieur will skyrocket.
I hope the Ingenieur Chrono line expands as you do Tiloh. I think this will happen because the new AMG model is a refinement of the Chrono. Perhaps there will be other dial color combinations or metal uses.
Alan, perhaps a new Blue dial for us! LOL
Kevi
I would like a no-date version Ingenieur.
Alan, let's keep our fingers crossed that ideas in Schaffhausen go synchronously with ours... ;-)