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A detective story: My „wrong“ Novecento..

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  • last reply by mateov 22 Jun 2009
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    Mr.
    Apprentice 0 posts
    21 Jun 2009, 6:10 a.m. 21 Jun 2009, 6:10 a.m.
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    I have always been attracted by watches with square, rectangular or tonneau-shaped cases. Therefore I always admired the PT Novecento on display in the Schaffhausen IWC museum.

    Novecentos have been manufactured between 1987 and 2001 in two reference numbers:
    - Ref. 3545 / Caliber: F. Piguet 953 (IWC 31062) / Jewels: 35 / Vibrations: 21000/h / in use: 1987 - 1995
    - Ref. 3546 / Caliber: JLC 960.61 (IWC 96061) / Jewels: 47 / Vibrations: 28000/h / in use: 1995 - 2001

    My AD who owned a Novecento ref. 3545 and is watchmaker himself, remembered multiple replacements of the click-wheel in the gear train of the automatic winding system of the Piguet caliber (It seems the very thin click-wheel was not robust enough for the purpose it was designed for). This must have been one reason that IWC has replaced the Piguet caliber with the JLC caliber in 1995.

    As I wear all watches in my collection, I decided to search for a robust Novecento ref. 3546 with the JLC caliber. Now some week ago I finally purchased a Novecento with (according to the seller) a JLC caliber. The watch did not have the original documents, but a bill from Richemont Iberia and an IWC repair guarantee card from an overhaul in June 2008.

    [i334.photobucket.com/albums/m420/Stz_bucket/IWCNovecento.jpg](s334.photobucket.com/albums/m420/Stz_bucket/?action=view¤t=IWCNovecento.jpg)

    When I received my Novecento I noticed a double case number: An engraved number “754” (in figures approx. 4 mm high) and a stamped, tiny 7 digit number just below the engraved number (Sorry, no picture of the back. I did not manage to take a readable photograph). My AD believed to remember that the first series of 1000 Novencentos had a serial number engraved on the back. But this observation meant that my Novecento was a ref. 3545 with a Piguet caliber?! As a consequence we decided to open the watch and get an extract from the IWC archives: My Novecento was born in 1989 as a ref. 3545 and was sold to Barcelona / Spain!

    I have decided not to complain at the seller. I own a very well maintained Novecento from the first series of 1000 pieces. Michael Gehret who owns several “Piguet-Novecentos” confirmed to me, that he never had technical issues with his Piguet calibers and he is also wearing the watches. So I will keep my Novecento, wear it to my office and treat it like a “raw egg”.
    Thank you for reading my IWC detective story.
    Urs

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    21 Jun 2009, 7:20 a.m. 21 Jun 2009, 7:20 a.m.
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    An interesting story and a wonderful...

    and unique watch. Very unusual.

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    Stuart Mogell
    Connoisseur 391 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 1:40 p.m. 20 Jun 2009, 1:40 p.m.
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    Lovely piece, good luck.

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    Mr. Andrew Thomas
    Master 5816 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 4:10 p.m. 20 Jun 2009, 4:10 p.m.
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    Wonderful to read the "Columbo" style ending.....

    I hope to see it in real-life soon....

    Andrew

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    dzul
    Master 3987 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 10:35 a.m. 20 Jun 2009, 10:35 a.m.
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    It is an interesting report...

    and beautiful watch! It looks great on your wrist.

    Best regards,
    Jim

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2723 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 6:50 p.m. 20 Jun 2009, 6:50 p.m.
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    Didn't know there were two different

    movements used for this watch. It is a great beauty, whichever one.

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    ref5441
    Master 3906 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 2:50 p.m. 20 Jun 2009, 2:50 p.m.
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    great watch and greetings from a small sister!

    gallery.me.com/bonthond/100019/L1020569/web.jpg?ver=12452521240001

    gallery.me.com/bonthond/100019/L1020553/web.jpg?ver=12452521090001

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    Bill B.
    Master 6725 posts
    20 Jun 2009, 5:55 p.m. 20 Jun 2009, 5:55 p.m.
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    A Scotland Yard tale and good read>>>

    thanks for sharing your passion and research.

    All in all, a very lovely IWC.

    Bill

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    Joseph White
    Master 1648 posts
    21 Jun 2009, 7:35 a.m. 21 Jun 2009, 7:35 a.m.
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    My AD has one for sale........

    and it is listed as a REF.3546,... just back from service.

    I had not heard of this model... and now I see two in one week.

    Best of Luck with your Novecento...It look's Great.

    Regards,

    Joe

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    Mr.
    Apprentice 0 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 7:30 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 7:30 a.m.
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    Small sister?!

    Thank you for the pictures! I was not aware that there was a "family" of Novecentos.
    Urs

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 4:10 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 4:10 a.m.
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    More siblings

    The family is:

    Ref. 3545 perpetual in gold or platinum with leather band (Piguet based movement)
    Ref 9235 perpetual in gold or platinum with bracelet (Piguet based movement)

    Ref. 3546 perpetual in gold or platinum with leather band (JLC based movement)
    Ref. 9237 perpetual in gold or platinum with bracelet (JLC based movement)
    Ref. 3226 automatic in gold with leather band
    Ref. 2550 handwound, white dial in gold with leather band (first image above)
    Ref. 2551 handwound, balck dial in gold with leather band (second image above)

    I think that is all.

    Cheers from the cellar

    www.gregsteer.net/IWC/Catalogue/2550.jpg

    www.gregsteer.net/IWC/Catalogue/2551.jpg

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    21 Jun 2009, 4:10 p.m. 21 Jun 2009, 4:10 p.m.
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    I think these are all very handsome watches! nt

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    Mr. Norbert Scheepers
    Master 2703 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 7:50 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 7:50 a.m.
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    Great story, thanks for sharingnt

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    David Hamilton
    Master 1313 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 6:05 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 6:05 a.m.
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    A great acquisition- glad that you are happy!

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 4:50 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 4:50 a.m.
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    Very interesting tale, thank you, I discovered

    something more about this peculiar model.

    roberto

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    Nicky
    Master 2085 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 12:55 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 12:55 a.m.
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    Interseting Urs! And it is a great looking piece >

    fitting in your collection too!

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    Mr.
    Apprentice 0 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 4:20 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 4:20 a.m.
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    More siblings

    Tank you for that list, Cellar. Although I was also searching for the Pt version of my watch, I simply forgot thet the Pt versions had different ref.numbers.
    I like the pictures of the 3 hands Novecentos, especially this "clean", graphic design dial!
    Urs

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 12:55 a.m. 22 Jun 2009, 12:55 a.m.
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    Many are very good buys...

    ..and relative bargains for precious metal perpetuals.

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    Mateo Villalba
    Master 785 posts
    22 Jun 2009, 2:50 p.m. 22 Jun 2009, 2:50 p.m.
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    Congratulations Urs, it is a gem!

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