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A most unusual IWC pocket watch

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    Dirk Janssen
    Master 761 posts
    6 Dec 2008, 11:25 p.m. 6 Dec 2008, 11:25 p.m.
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    The rather youthful picture of Wilhelm II

    It is interesting that in 1914/15 the picture chosen for the German emperor shows him much more youthful - by 1915 he would have been looking much more like the second image above, see also the fund raising poster of the Germans in Texas in my first post.

    Dirk

    history.sandiego.edu/gen/ww1/images/wilhelm_ii.jpg

    www.deutschlanddokumente.de/Bilder/hhzWilhelm2.jpg

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 6:05 a.m. 7 Dec 2008, 6:05 a.m.
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    Here's a close-up of the right image...

    ...and you can see the "1915" on the bottom.

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/K-PW-Close.jpg

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    Mr. argiris develegas
    Master 2973 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 3:45 a.m. 7 Dec 2008, 3:45 a.m.
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    My compliments on your new addition

    Michael and the trivia too.

    Argiris

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2723 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 4:25 a.m. 7 Dec 2008, 4:25 a.m.
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    Very interesting news, and, indeed, a

    great addition to your collection.

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    Nicky
    Master 2085 posts
    6 Dec 2008, 12:20 p.m. 6 Dec 2008, 12:20 p.m.
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    Actuall my first thought was Franz Josef >

    but then it is hard to tell....

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    Bill B.
    Master 6725 posts
    6 Dec 2008, 12:35 p.m. 6 Dec 2008, 12:35 p.m.
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    It looks like a Frans Joseph I painting >>>

    hanging in the Royal Apartments in Wien. When I first saw the post, this popped in my immediately.

    Of course, this is not proof by any means. Just an instant reaction to having seen this image before.

    Bill

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 1:25 a.m. 7 Dec 2008, 1:25 a.m.
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    I still think Hans is correct. Here is a ...

    picture of Franz Joseph. The face is a dead ringer for the one on your watch. Just my opinion. Of course, it looks like von Hindenburg as well...

    i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/lndblr/PW121.jpg

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    8 Dec 2008, 5:50 a.m. 8 Dec 2008, 5:50 a.m.
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    I am sorry MF but I am right :=)

    1. Kaiser Wilhelm I. looks completely different. All the last German Kaisers had a special form of their beards where the ends were "looking up". Thats a famous form and it's calles in German: "Es ist gelungen" (we made it!).
    2. The best proof are the medals he wears: the biggest one - beneath all others- is the famous Austrian GRAND CROSS of Maria Theresia with in inscription !"FORTITUDINI" (to the bravery") The inscription is in the middle of a circle with the Austrian colours :RED-WHITE-RED.

    img247.imageshack.us/img247/8871/grandcrossho7.jpg

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    Nicky
    Master 2085 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 2:45 p.m. 7 Dec 2008, 2:45 p.m.
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    But apart from the guessing what a catch!

    That is a truly unique and historical piece.

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 12:50 p.m. 7 Dec 2008, 12:50 p.m.
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    nothing to be sorry about; I'm appreciative....

    Send me your mailing address and I'll send you the Jones Sailing Bag.

    You shoud know that a group of people, including some relatively expert. thought it was Kaiser Wilhelm I. I don't think he looks completely different, but in all events I think you're almost certainly right.

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    7 Dec 2008, 2:05 p.m. 7 Dec 2008, 2:05 p.m.
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    The last proof :=)

    Well, appreciative is not bad but for me "convinced" is better.
    So here are 3 pics: your watch, Wilhelm I. and Franz Joseph I.
    If you compare the pics you will notice that the photo of Franz Joseph is almost the same as on your watch(one is with a coat and one without) . . . and look at the decorations: they are almost identical! And pls notice: Wilhelm I. always had his beard with the ends twirled up :=)

    img408.imageshack.us/img408/4282/mfms7.jpg

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    8 Dec 2008, 7:30 a.m. 8 Dec 2008, 7:30 a.m.
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    Agreed! And see my pic below as well.

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