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Apples and Oranges; Big Pilot & Port Auto

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  • last reply by swee 3 Oct 2009
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    Cinq
    Master 5431 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 10:45 p.m. 26 Sep 2009, 10:45 p.m.
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    I finally finished my report. It's a watch comparison of the Big Pilot and the Portuguese Automatic. You can find the report at the link below.

    Kind regards,

    Clemens

    Apples & Oranges

    sibon.triple-it.nl/images/stories/IWC/BP-PA/BP-PA_Front.jpg

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    Mr. Norbert Scheepers
    Master 2703 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 9:40 a.m. 26 Sep 2009, 9:40 a.m.
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    Great report Clemens...

    ... it's interesting to see these two important watches being reviewed and compared in one report. Thanks for all the effort you put in this work. Great pictures too!

    Regards
    Norbert

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    Paul Bloemen
    Master 4219 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 4:30 p.m. 26 Sep 2009, 4:30 p.m.
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    Excellent!

    Very nicely done Clemens. What I like most is that your report shows that you truly love both watches.

    Kind regards,
    Paul, wearing rose gold Saint Exupéry Chrono

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    Gerald Ebisuzaki
    Master 1797 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 7:55 a.m. 27 Sep 2009, 7:55 a.m.
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    Great review. Thanks. .nt

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2723 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 5:20 a.m. 27 Sep 2009, 5:20 a.m.
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    Very nice review AND pictures. nt

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 4:40 p.m. 26 Sep 2009, 4:40 p.m.
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    Good review and comparison. nt

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    Stuart Mogell
    Connoisseur 391 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 10:40 a.m. 26 Sep 2009, 10:40 a.m.
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    Nicely done!

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    stanford
    Connoisseur 304 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 2:45 a.m. 27 Sep 2009, 2:45 a.m.
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    Nice review

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    Bill B.
    Master 6725 posts
    26 Sep 2009, 7:10 p.m. 26 Sep 2009, 7:10 p.m.
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    Exhaustive review. Well done and thanks, ntg

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    Mr. argiris develegas
    Master 2973 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 9:15 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 9:15 p.m.
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    Quite impressive Clemens

    thank you very much for this.

    Argiris

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 9:55 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 9:55 p.m.
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    Have you noticed any differences in accuracy ...

    .. under similar conditions .e.g. Both worn crown down on the wrists until fully wound then sat in the same position for seven days?

    Good review and pictorial.

    Cheers from the cellar

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    28 Sep 2009, 6:25 a.m. 28 Sep 2009, 6:25 a.m.
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    Great report! Thank you for your contribution (nt)

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    Cinq
    Master 5431 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 7:55 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 7:55 p.m.
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    Didn't check it that extensively

    Hi cellar,

    I haven't had time to do such extensive accuracy tests but from a general point of view the accuracy seems quite similar.

    Something else I noticed though is that the Port Auto seems to wind a bit quicker than the Big Pilot but I haven't done any measurement to confirm that yet.

    Kind regards,

    Clemens

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    Simon Spruzen
    Graduate 16 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 6:25 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 6:25 p.m.
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    Differences in accuracy and more...

    I have a WG BP 5004 and a SS Port Auto (but with a black dial). The Port Auto is about a year older than the BP and has the 44 jewel movement. I think this has been reduced to 42 jewels (or maybe 40?) for recent incarnations.

    As far as accuracy, my Port Auto runs 2 secs a day fast and the BP 1 sec a day slow. This 'inaccuracy' (if you like) was constant to the second for the two samples I took. I'm guessing this is probably just natural variation with the movement adjustment and not a function of the model. I'm very impressed with the consistency and lack of drift.

    My BP is also far more efficient at winding - this might be due to the newer movement design, or perhaps the BP with its covered back has a heavier rotor than the skeletal one used by the Port Auto. I don't know, and experts here might have a view.

    My BP starts its date change at around 23.45 and is completed entirely by midnight; my Port Auto starts nearer to midnight and finishes at around 0.20.

    Another difference I've noticed is in the manual winding - the BP is far easier to wind and has some sort of mechanism to disallow over winding; as you wind the Port Auto until it nears 7 days on the dial, you notice a tightening and more friction and you simply can't wind 'beyond' 7 days - the winder locks. The BP does not. I found this by accident when my Port Auto was completely wound down - not paying attention to the dial - but no damage done!

    Finally, both watches are fantastic and complement each other well, and oddly enough given the extra weight and size, I find the BP sits better on my wrist and is more comfortable. And I love the photography.

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    Mr. Andrew Thomas
    Master 5816 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 2:40 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 2:40 p.m.
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    Lovely read

    and sharing your personal thoughts is a real treat.

    Excellent photography too.

    Andrew

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    28 Sep 2009, 8 a.m. 28 Sep 2009, 8 a.m.
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    My compliments, and....

    ....I think an extensive contribution like this, especially for our forum, deserves a Great Post Award.

    E-mail me with your postal address and I can send you an IWC cap...your choice of blue Aquatimer, "regular" grey, or brown leather Pilot's.

    Regards,
    Michael

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    Mr. Andrew Thomas
    Master 5816 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 1:50 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 1:50 p.m.
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    Great result. Well earned. (nt)

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    Cinq
    Master 5431 posts
    27 Sep 2009, 6:25 p.m. 27 Sep 2009, 6:25 p.m.
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    Thanks very much Michael >>

    I will send you the details. Thanks again!

    Kind regards,

    Clemens

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    dzul
    Master 3987 posts
    28 Sep 2009, 6:25 a.m. 28 Sep 2009, 6:25 a.m.
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    Very informative and the photos...

    were great. Thanks, Clemens!

    Best regards,
    Jim

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    Daniel Kump
    Graduate 17 posts
    29 Sep 2009, 3:15 a.m. 29 Sep 2009, 3:15 a.m.
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    Apples and Oranges; Big Pilot & Port Auto

    Nice read! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.

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    Julian Gallardo
    Connoisseur 245 posts
    28 Sep 2009, 10:40 p.m. 28 Sep 2009, 10:40 p.m.
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    Nice report (nt)

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    Mr. Stefan Weeber
    Master 2009 posts
    3 Oct 2009, 12:50 p.m. 3 Oct 2009, 12:50 p.m.
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    Great report Clemens !

    Regards,
    [i]Stefan

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