brand new Ingenieur 3239

I know, I know... It has a "cheap" Sellita movement and it's expensive as hell... It's the only thing you read about this watch, and it's something I've been thinking for a long time too. BUT... when it was presented in 2013 I was striked by its beautiful design. It's gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous. Its finishing and aestethics are on top! I've always been loving the Ingenieur serie, but I always thought that older models were a bit cheap aestetically-wise, if put aside of Royal Oak and Nautilus (which compose the Genta's trio, along with the Ingenieur). Maybe it was becouse of the plain bezel or becouse of the chamfered bracelet links (I love razor sharp lines, Royal Oak-style) that I've always thought "I really want an Ingenieur, but I want it to have more character!". At the same time I do hate all the latest oversized references, In which IWC counted so much in these last years. When the new Ingenieur Automatic was released I was istantly sold. Its size is small enough and it has all the heritage trademarks, with a pich of modern sportiness: the "holed" hands are beautiful; the dial has three concentric sections that juice it up; the crown guards (seen as a useless addition by the most) are rather "manly"; the bracelet itself is worth the whole package (great design; extremely comfortable (probably the most comfortable I've ever tried) and its pivot releasing mechanism is absolutely genial. We all know that its Achilles' heel is the movement (truth to be told, IWC has no in-house automatic calibers small enough to fit in a 40mm case) and the high price is barely justified. But if you can find a good bargain (I've been looking for it for almost two years but I've eventually succeeded) it's definitely an everyday-watch must buy! Great design, great finishing, great comfort, great heritage

Welcome to the forum and thanks for your first post. Great watch and nice collection as well.

Enjoy wear it.

Cheers Chris

Excellent acquisition!

It's an ETA base, not Selita if I've read correctly, but since the patents have all now matured, who knows these days... :)

Nonetheless, the movement will still perform better if not equal to any in-house creation with respect to every-day wear and tear.

Can anyone please verify whether if the crown sealing system of the new ingenieurs are consistent with the aquatimers?

Much appreciated.

Nice watch and collection, love ingy so much
for me dont bother with its movement
I believe every IWC watch has every mm of it under IWC quality ;)

@Leon : i dont know much about its construction, but since both have different usage ( different environment , underwater and land ) it should be different.
AT must have better seal than Ingy

Cheers

Welcome MASSIMAX
That's a great addition to a very nice collection

Cool. Very cool. I wasn't sold on one until I tried one on. I can see why you love it.

Cheers,

Jarrod

Terima Kasih Tanto, but I believe that's an assumption. The waterproofing for Ingenieurs are pretty solid (120m) which are essentially the same as some of the older generation ATs.

Wha's particularly interesting is the consistent manual language used with respect to water resistance, "Important: Although the watch is water-resistant in positions 0, 1 and 2, the crown should always be screwed in again for normal use (position X)."

This applies across most screw-down crown watches regardless of product segment/category (pilot vs. AT vs. Inegenieur).

Does anyone know for sure? Confirmation will be greatly appreciated.

Great purchase and welcome to the forum MASSIMAX.

Crown guards and bracelet! YES!!!
Greetings from a brother...

Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question, but can you tell me were you got this technical drawings? Very interesting to follow the details.

Cheers Chris

That's such a cool watch! Congratulations on that one. I love it.

yes it was my assumption, but i change now :D (after i read both manual)
the "important" note should make both AT and Ingy the same sealant (but im not sure this sealant ( if you open it underwater )can give the same WR as the watch itself.
the question is why you need to know this ? are you trying to use your Ingy underwater ?
as a scuba diver, even i have an AT, i prefer use my dive comp (much cheaper and useful :D )

Cheers

Welcome and what a nice report on your first IWC. It is a really great watch, with soft inner cage, a solid movement with full iwc specs, an excellent IWC design and a superior bracelet. Makes that Sub look rather ....lol.

Thanks again Tanto.

Im interested more in the technical perspective. Whether if IWC applies the same water resistant / case, crown sealing technology across models regardless of product positioning (marketing).

For instance, IWC already does so with respect to applying the same movements in models across different categories.