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Ingenieur 3227 and 3239 dial size

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    Mr. Dénes Albert
    Connoisseur 170 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 7:48 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 7:48 a.m.
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    Some of you might have already guessed it: they are identical (30mm).

    i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/albertur/3239_vs_3227_1_zps827c5873.jpg

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    Mr. Jarrod Gill
    Master 3720 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 7:59 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 7:59 a.m.
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    40mm?

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    Mr. Dénes Albert
    Connoisseur 170 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 8:22 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 8:22 a.m.
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    waikato7 has written:

    40mm?

    No, I'm not talking case diameter (which is 42 and 40mm, respectively) but actual dial size.

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    Mr. Jarrod Gill
    Master 3720 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 8:27 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 8:27 a.m.
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    DénesA has written:
    waikato7 has written:

    40mm?

    No, I'm not talking case diameter (which is 42 and 40mm, respectively) but actual dial size.

    Ha. I see. I guess the give away was the heading that said, "dial size". :-)

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    Mr. Dénes Albert
    Connoisseur 170 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 8:39 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 8:39 a.m.
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    waikato7 has written:

    Ha. I see. I guess the give away was the heading that said, "dial size". :-)

    Indeed. Quite an astute observation, my friend.

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    Mr. Jarrod Gill
    Master 3720 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 8:45 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 8:45 a.m.
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    Well, it is bed time in New Zealand.

    2mm makes a big difference to the look.

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 9 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 9 a.m.
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    That was and still is an usual IWC dial size :-)

    This is an older comparison. 36 mm Portugieser and 42 mm Ing.

    Regards

    HEBE

    derjonk.de/lizard/brutto-netto.jpg

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 9:12 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 9:12 a.m.
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    I also checked the factors of some IWC models . Case diameter / dial diameter.

    derjonk.de/lizard/case-dial.jpg

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    Mr. Dénes Albert
    Connoisseur 170 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 9:15 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 9:15 a.m.
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    HEBE,

    Your photoshopped image just made me realize something that I never could put into words: there has to be a golden ratio between the thickness of the bezel against that of the hands and hour markers/numerals.

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 9:26 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 9:26 a.m.
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    DénesA has written:

    HEBE,
    there has to be a golden ratio between the thickness of the bezel against that of the hands and hour markers/numerals.

    Yes, totally agree !

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    Mr. andy stevens
    Master 1792 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 9:43 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 9:43 a.m.
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    hebe has written:

    That was and still is an usual IWC dial size :-)

    This is an older comparison. 36 mm Portugieser and 42 mm Ing.

    Regards

    HEBE

    derjonk.de/lizard/brutto-netto.jpg

    HEBE,

    If you would be so kind, please elaborate on the Portuguese & Ingenieur on the right side. Would like to know some of the spec's ( diameter, height, year produced, variation , etc. )

    Those are just such beautiful watches. I would enjoy wearing them. Both are Stunners !

    Thanks,

    Andy

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 11:16 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 11:16 a.m.
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    andy stevens has written:

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    HEBE,

    If you would be so kind, please elaborate on the Portuguese & Ingenieur on the right side.
    Thanks,

    Andy

    Well, I thought the photos would be self-explanatory ?!

    The upper photos show the Ref. 3227 and ref. 3531.

    In the lower photos I just exchanged the dials of the Ing. and the Portu. via photoshop, because they have the same diameter.

    Sorry for the confusing photos.

    Regards

    HEBE

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    Mr. andy stevens
    Master 1792 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 11:38 a.m. 29 Oct 2013, 11:38 a.m.
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    hebe has written:
    andy stevens has written:

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    HEBE,

    If you would be so kind, please elaborate on the Portuguese & Ingenieur on the right side.
    Thanks,

    Andy

    Well, I thought the photos would be self-explanatory ?!

    The upper photos show the Ref. 3227 and ref. 3531.

    In the lower photos I just exchanged the dials of the Ing. and the Portu. via photoshop, because they have the same diameter.

    Sorry for the confusing photos.

    Regards

    HEBE

    HEBE,

    Please forgive me. I was so enthralled with those ( now I know photoshopped ) dials that I did not follow the narrative. Really like the dial swap looks.

    Thank you for your reply....Andy

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 12:05 p.m. 29 Oct 2013, 12:05 p.m.
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    andy stevens has written:

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    HEBE,

    Please forgive me. I was so enthralled with those ( now I know photoshopped ) dials that I did not follow the narrative. Really like the dial swap looks.

    Thank you for your reply....Andy

    No problem at all, Andy.

    But, if you like Ing. dials with small second subdials, I also would be happy to have the Ing. in the back ground with such a dial - in reality - :-)

    Regards

    HEBE

    derjonk.de/lizard/ing-zb.jpg

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    Mr. andy stevens
    Master 1792 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 12:29 p.m. 29 Oct 2013, 12:29 p.m.
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    hebe has written:
    andy stevens has written:

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    HEBE,

    Please forgive me. I was so enthralled with those ( now I know photoshopped ) dials that I did not follow the narrative. Really like the dial swap looks.

    Thank you for your reply....Andy

    No problem at all, Andy.

    But, if you like Ing. dials with small second subdials, I also would be happy to have the Ing. in the back ground with such a dial - in reality - :-)

    Regards

    HEBE

    derjonk.de/lizard/ing-zb.jpg

    Impressive...your photo's are so well done. Always a treat.

    Thanks HEBE

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    whichwatch
    Master 2824 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 2:03 p.m. 29 Oct 2013, 2:03 p.m.
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    [QUOTE="hebe"]That was and still is an usual IWC dial size :-)

    This is an older comparison. 36 mm Portugieser and 42 mm Ing.

    Regards

    HEBE

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    Are you saying that 3531 Portuguese and 3227 Ingenieur have the same dial size? Man, I wouldn't have believed that in a million years! The 3227 is a beast. The 3531 by today's standards seems, well, petite. I am truly amazed!

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    8541
    Master 4485 posts
    29 Oct 2013, 10:16 p.m. 29 Oct 2013, 10:16 p.m.
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    Great post Gents. Like Dick I too would not have imagined those dials to be the same size.

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