• Graduate
    27 Mar 2015, 11:32 a.m.

    The number 31457 number is quite often seen on vintage on IWC movements, and it appears in the early Fournitures catalogues of parts. It is well known by IWC collectors that this refers to a patent granted to Rauschenbach on 11 May 1904, but less well known is the subject of the patent.

    The title of the patent is "Dispositif pour limiter le remontage des mouvements d'horlogerie à barillet" or "device for limiting the winding of a watch movement barrel". This indicates that it is for a type of "stop work" that limits the winding of the mainspring in its barrel.

    The purpose of stop work is to stop the winding of the mainspring before it is fully wound, in order to eliminate the peak of force or torque that occurs if the spring is wound tight. A common form of stop work is called Maltese cross or Geneva stop work; the IWC patent CH 31457 is a variation on this type of stop work.

    The stop work mechanism is located on top of the mainspring barrel under the barrel bridge. It can only be seen when the mechanism is dismantled. This figure from the patent shows how it works.

    www.vintagewatchstraps.com/movementpics/CH31457fig34sm.jpg

    Fig 3, a view looking down on the barrel h, shows a small gear wheel i attached to the barrel arbor h1 which engages with a smaller gear wheel k. The wheel k is free to turn with the wheel i on the barrel arbor as the watch is wound.

    Fig 4 shows a view from the underside of the gear wheels shown in Fig 3. The two gear wheels i and k each have a disc, i1 and k1 respectively, attached to their underside. These discs each have a projection which, as the gears are turned during winding, will eventually come into contact, preventing the discs, and hence the gears, from turning any further, thus stopping the winding.

    There is some further discussion about this on my the IWC page of my web site.

    Kind regards - David

  • Connoisseur
    27 Mar 2015, 1:26 p.m.

    Hello David,

    This is interesting. Thanks for sharing!

    Best

    Sumit

  • Connoisseur
    27 Mar 2015, 8:08 p.m.

    A terrific contribution, David. I always admire your scholarship. Thanks very much.

  • Graduate
    18 May 2015, 11:25 a.m.

    In their book about IWC (ISBN 3906500152, p97), Tölke and King refer to this patent as a "barrel-bridge winding wheel construction". This is not the principal purpose of the patent as the title and opening paragraph make clear; "L'objet de la présente invention est un dispositif pour limiter le remontage des mouvements d'horlogerie a barillet" (The object of the present invention is a device for limiting the winding of watch movement barrels). So why did Tölke and King refer to it as a barrel bridge construction?

    The answer probably lies in the figures in the patent. Here is a version showing all of the figures as well as the title of the patent.

    www.vintagewatchstraps.com/movementpics/CH31457sm.jpg

    Figures 1 and 2 show the barrel bridge and the crown and ratchet wheels, and I imagine that Tölke and King, perhaps being German speakers and the patent being in French, or perhaps seeing only the figures and not the text of the patent, thought that figures 1 and 2 were the main object of the patent; a natural assumption to make. However, it is figures 3 and 4 that show the stopwork device that is stated to be the principal purpose of the patent.

    Figures 1 and 2 of the patent show unusual "two part" crown and ratchet wheels. The usual form of crown wheel is shown in the photograph here in the top left hand corner.

    www.vintagewatchstraps.com/movementpics/crownwheelssm.jpg

    It is made in one piece with teeth on its lower face that are driven by the winding pinion, and radial teeth on its edge that drive the ratchet wheel, and is secured in place by a screw into the barrel bridge. The IWC two part crown wheel, shown below and to the right, has a wheel with radial teeth that sits on top of the barrel bridge, and a second wheel with face teeth that is located below the barrel bridge. There is a square boss on the crown part that enters a square hole in the upper wheel, and two parts are fixed together with three screws.

    The ratchet wheel in the patent is similarly made in two parts, a wheel that sits on top of the bridge and a smaller bush that is located below the bridge, again the two parts are held together with three screws. The bush has a central hole through which the barrel arbor passes and engages with a square hole in the ratchet wheel. This probably explains the reason for the square boss on the crown part of the crown wheel. The three screws would be adequate to couple the crown and wheel part of the crown wheel and the square coupling is not needed, but without it the two wheels would look different and so it is most likely there for purely aesthetic reasons. An alternative design would have been to make the boss below the ratchet wheel with a square rather than round hole for the barrel arbor, and then both the crown wheel and ratchet wheel could have been made without centre holes, which would have looked neater.

    This unusual design of the crown and ratchet wheels is described in the patent and in the "claims" (the features that are claimed as part of the patent) as claim 2 and 3. But the purpose of this part of the design is not described. Patents are granted to protect inventions, novel solutions to technical problems, and this simple description of a design without explaining how it solved a problem would not be acceptable in a patent today.

    The crown and ratchet wheel are not components that normally cause or suffer problems or a wear, and they do not need to be made like this in order for the stopwork to function, so the purpose of making them in two parts is rather a mystery to me.

    There is more about IWC patents and early IWC wristwatches on the IWC page of my web site.

    Kind regards - David

  • Connoisseur
    18 May 2015, 9:41 p.m.

    Hi David!

    Are you sure the stop work is made to prevent the barrel from being further wound? My understanding is that the Maltese Cross and other such devices shall prevent the barrel from unwinding beyond a certain point. When nearly unwound the power of the main spring is getting less and therefore the watch looses accuracy - for that reasons it is stopped before getting inaccurate.

    Eager to learn more!

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

  • Graduate
    19 May 2015, 10:27 a.m.

    Hi Thomas,

    Yes, I am sure that the purpose of stop work is to prevent the barrel being further wound at the end of winding.

    This is to avoid the high torque caused when the mainspring is wound tightly around its arbor. If the spring is wound fully and tightly around its arbor, the very high torque that this creates can cause "over banking" - the balance is impulsed so much that it turns further than it should and the impulse pin strikes the outside of the lever fork. This not only results in inaccurate timekeeping but can also damage the escapement.

    Of course, the stop work also works in reverse and will stop the watch before the spring is fully unwound. However, this is a consequence of the design rather than its primary purpose, and rather than preventing a loss of accuracy, this would result in a total loss of accuracy and be an inconvenience to the owner.

    As the mainspring of a going barrel (i.e. no fusee) unwinds, its torque reduces and the amplitude of the balance also reduces. With a manually wound watch this usually happens every 24 hours, between when it is fully wound and when it is run down before it is next fully wound. The effect of this variation in amplitude between fully wound and run down on timekeeping is minimised by making the balance and balance spring assembly as near to "isochronous" as possible, within the normal operating range of the mainspring.

    Although a watch would maintain its rate less accurately, and therefore keep time less well, if it was allowed to operate with the spring run down and outside the range for which the balance is sensibly isochronal, it would still be of some use to its owner, and could be wound and corrected to time when the opportunity presented itself.

    However, a watch that has stopped has totally lost accuracy, even if it was within one second of the correct time before it was stopped. As each second passes, the watch becomes one second less accurate. (Until 12 hours have elapsed, when it is right again - although of course the owner cannot know this from simply looking at the watch.)

    A stopped watch is of no use to its owner whatsoever. In fact is a positive nuisance because, in addition to winding it, the owner must find a clock or sundial to set the time correctly against, which in earlier times might not be so easy.

    In case this discussion does not convince you, I quote George Daniels (Watchmaking, p284) "If the barrel is without stop work then some form of resilient or recoiling pawl is necessary to relieve the pressure of the fully wound spring." Also in Britten (Watch & Clockmaker's Handbook, 16th edition, p38) "To avoid high torque when the mainspring is tight wound about its arbor various stop work devices can be used."

    As George Daniels says, manually wound watches without stopwork have a recoiling pawl that allows the barrel to turn backwards slightly, to "recoil", and let the mainspring uncoil a little from being fully wound. All modern manually wound watches have recoil clicks. Automatic watches allow the mainspring to slip in the barrel at the end of winding so that the watch is not wound too much, either manually or automatically.

    A recoil click of course does not stop the spring running down. To avoid the very low torque when the spring is near fully unwound, the spring is sized so that a manually wound watch will go for around 36 hours, on the assumption that the owner will wind it every 24 hours and hence the last portion of the unwinding will not be encountered in normal use.

    There is a longer discussion about stop work on my web site at Watchmovements: Stop work.

    Kind regards - David

  • Connoisseur
    20 May 2015, 8:44 p.m.

    Thanks David,

    so I learned some things more, I wasn`t aware before!

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

  • Master
    29 May 2015, 8:54 p.m.

    What a wonderful post and responces.

    This gents is what made this forum the place to go to for IWC knowledge exchange and discussion - and I for one are pleased to see that with these type of discussions, it stays that way!

    Thank you David, for sharing the knowledge.