• Connoisseur
    15 Mar 2015, 3:29 p.m.

    Prologue:
    In every watch collector 's life comes a time when s/he identifies a grail.
    Sometimes this grail is either no longer available or is in extremely short
    supply. In my case, the IWC 3799 Doppel Chronograph Edition "Top Gun" is my
    grail watch. When I set eyes on it some seven years ago, the quest to own it
    was ignited.

    So, why did I hunger for a 3799? I had always wanted a highly anti-magnetic
    watch that had some haute horology complication (like a rattrapante) and
    serious aviation lineage (I am a sucker for pilot's watches, if you haven't
    already guessed as much!). A few years back I had the opportunity to order for
    a 3713, but the piece had some defects so I had to woefully return it to the
    AD for a full refund. When IWC launched the 3799, around 2007 it was all that
    I wanted and yet some - stealthy ceramic case, and those lusty hands. I had to
    have one! But it was a rare watch - Not only was it a limited production
    piece, IWC had pulled the plug on it in 2012. Unfortunately, our minds work in
    weird ways, and the thirst to own this extremely rare piece remained
    unquenched.

    Then one day I casually sauntered into another AD that had only recently
    started to stock IWCs, and my eyes fell on a 3799 in the flesh! With my
    finances (and my fiance) permitting, I was just about to pull the trigger when
    some pictures of a broken ceramic cases caught my attention. Finally after
    going through multiple forums and interacting with the friendly forummers, my
    fears were laid to rest - an incident that would break ceramic would
    irreversibly dent a metallic case as well. So I went back to the AD, agreed on
    a good price and bought it. The watch had been with them for more than a year
    - it was as if it was destined to be mine!

    Initially I found very few reviews of this watch and thought I would share my
    experience with others. Though the 3799 is no longer available, I hope readers
    may get some information on the common themes (such as the ceramic case, anti-
    magnetic features et cetera) that tie this unique reference to IWC's current
    pilot's lineup. In order to keep it simple and interesting, I have divided
    this review into 4 parts that capture the various dimensions. This factual
    review is based on whatever research I was able to do on the watch. I will
    really appreciate any inputs from knowledgeable readers to correct any
    deviations they notice. I am not a professional photographer, so please bear
    with the quality of pictures!

    Now lets "fly" straight into the review!

    Case:
    The 3799 has a classic styled 46 mm case that is typical of the IWC pilots
    line, with an inter-horn length of 22 mm. The material used for the case is
    the highlight. IWC used Yttrium stabilized Zirconia (YSZ) for the case and
    uses an injection molding process to create a case block which is then baked.
    The ceramic case block actually shrinks in the oven. Once this process is
    complete, diamond tools are used to sculpt it to the final shape. This is then
    attached to a titanium case ring, on the inside, using adhesives ensuring that
    case is water resistant to 6 bars.

    The material itself is extremely hard and is rated at around 1400 Vickers in
    hardness. Not only is the material light and skin friendly, it has a
    comfortably warm feel when you touch it. Like its newer IWC ceramic siblings
    currently available, the crown, pushers (all three of them) and the case back
    are made from Grade 2 Titanium. Unlike the button guards and the sides, the
    tips of the buttons themselves are polished. The tip of the crown is polished
    as well. The crown has the "Probus Scafusia" tastefully embossed onto it.
    These polished areas worried me because of the softness of Grade 2 Titanium of
    around ~180 Vickers. But IWC being the pioneer in the use of Titanium, have
    done something that makes them more scratch resistant. The case back has the
    "Top Gun" logo reverse printed under a sapphire crystal. All these together
    make the watch feel much lighter than what you expect given its size.

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    The entire case has a matte finish that gives it an absolutely stealthy and
    understated look. It looks like a quintessential aviation tool and you feel
    like putting it through the paces. I have been continuously wearing it for the
    last couple of weeks and have had it on my wrist in situations where I have
    been working with an impact drill, cleaning my roof..and so on! Only
    yesterday, I bumped it once on the wall, and that gave me a minor heart
    attack. So I decided to inspect it using a 5X loupe under a spot light - the
    material is absolutely amazing! Not a single scratch or blemish on it after
    weeks of such harsh use. I have read many an instance, where other owners have
    seen a scratch on the ceramic after bumping into something, only to realize
    that it is material deposited from the object the watch bumped into. I hope
    that glory lasts my lifetime at least!

    Though I have not opened the watch, there is a "soft iron" inner movement ring
    and an inner case back that, together with the dial completes the inner case.
    This shields the movement from detrimental effects of a stray magnetic fields
    to at least 24,000 A/m (300 Gauss), or more.

    The native strap that comes with the 3799 is made of Kevlar, with a leather
    lining. The tang type buckle is made of stainless steel which has been bead
    blasted to look like titanium. I was initially vexed on this point when I
    bought the watch, and I though there had been some mistake in my case. But
    further correspondence with IWC and subsequent research on forums revealed
    that the tang type buckle is indeed steel, as is the case with 2012 Pilot's
    line-up as well. In 2013 however, the titanium Ingenieurs got titanium
    buckles. It is difficult to work with titanium, and production costs for such
    a small part were probably not justified - IWC being a pioneer in the use of
    titanium, I trust their decision. This little detail however, does not bother
    me as I have installed a NATO on it keeping in line with the overall theme of
    the watch. Its only proper to use a MOD spec-ed G10 on an IWC with its RAF
    Mark XI heritage!

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    Dial and Hands:
    The dial design is absolutely functional given the theme of the watch. The
    extremely legible layout only adds to the Spartan beauty. There is something
    about the main hour and minute hand that is so good. IWC seems to have gotten
    the proportion of the hands close to perfection. These two hands are filled
    with Super Luminova (probably Strontium Aluminate). The black exterior of the
    hands contrasted by the white of the lume is just perfect!

    The dial is made of "soft iron", to complete the anti-magnetic inner case.
    This is probably also the reason why the dial does not have any complex
    designs (such as raised numerals) on it. The luminous elements seem to be
    attached, rather than applied to the dial at the four points - 12 (the
    triangle), 3, 6 and 9.

    Together with these four points and the two main hour and minute hands are the
    only luminous implementations on the watch dial - IWC stuck to their theme.
    The white on the chronograph center seconds, rattrapante seconds and the two
    sub-registers is just white paint - they are not luminous. The legibility is
    absolutely superb at all angles even in low light.

    I will spend some time on the two superimposed hands of the chronograph - the
    center seconds hand at the bottom and the rattrapante hand on the top. This
    sequence of superimposition is due to the fact that the rattrapante hand is
    connected to a co-axial tube on the outside and the center seconds arbor is
    inside this tube. IWC has done something really tasteful here and this was one
    of those little things about the watch that attracted me to it. The
    counterbalances of the rattrapante hand and the center seconds hand are
    designed in such a manner that when they at 12 in reset, a superimposed motif
    of a jet plane is visible - the wings forming a part of the counter-balance of
    the rattrapante hand and the tail forming a part of the center second's
    counterbalance. The magic happens when you activate the split mechanism and
    these two hitherto superimposed counterbalance separate and "split" (pun
    intended) the motif! I get ahead of myself - more on the movement later!

    The running seconds register at 9 o'clock is also in bright red and together
    with the red of the "Jet" motif of the center chronograph seconds and
    rattrapante hands give a splash of bright red to the otherwise Spartan
    business like presentation of the dial.

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    Another small detail worth a smile, is the way in which all of the hands -
    main timekeeper's and the chronograph's - interact with the markers. As I have
    already mentioned, these markers are white strokes. When the hands go over
    them, they don't cover the markers entirely, instead falling short by a
    fraction. So all you see is a small white dot of the marker and then the hand
    below it. This really enhances the instant and accurate readability of
    information - something critical to a pilot's watch!

    The chronograph registers at 12 and 6 are slightly depressed into the dial and
    have a very light circular design ingrained into them. This is visible only at
    certain angles. Given the anti-magnetic capabilities of this watch, all the
    hands, are also made of non-magnetic materials

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    Movement:
    Aaah the jewel of the crown - Inside beats the IWC caliber 79230 29 jewel.
    This engine is based on an extensively reworked chronometer grade Valjoux
    7750. Earlier ETA used to supply IWC with unassembled 7750 kits that IWC used
    to extensively work upon to improve an already proven workhorse. Since the
    first decade of the millennium, ETA has stopped supplying movement kits such
    as the 7750, they have been delivering completely assembled movements to non-
    Swatch group companies. IWC states that ETA reworks the movements (2892, 7750
    et cetera) according to IWC's own standards before delivery.

    The rattrapante module was developed by Richard Habring when he worked for
    IWC. Unlike most other 7750 based rattrapante movements, Habring's module is
    attached to the bottom plate of the reworked 7750 rather than the top plate.
    This is a more traditional approach. My research tells me that IWC has a
    special department that (probably amongst other complications) deals with
    assembly of this add-on.

    If given the right training and a good environment to grow, does an adopted
    child really underperform when compared to her sibling who is genetically
    related to the parents? I think not! Even though the Valjoux 7750 base in
    manufactured by ETA, IWC plays a major role in modifying it to its own
    specifications. I do not know if the particular 79230 beating in my 3799 was
    created from a 7750 kit or was it delivered fully assembled to IWC by ETA
    based on the former's strict specification. It really does not make any
    difference. The IWC magic is immediately obvious.

    It's a known fact that 7750 and its multiple variants feel a bit stiff when
    you manually rotate the crown to wind the mainspring. But the 79230 inside my
    3799 feels silky smooth when winding - though, it could be in part because of
    the large crown. Also, the typical 7750 rotor wobble is all but missing on
    this caliber. Experts say that IWC does a lot of things to the 7750 (or ETA
    does them according to IWC's specs…). As the individual components are
    refined, their efficiency improves requiring a weaker mainspring to be
    installed to reduce stress.

    This caliber has been superseded by the 79420. There are no differences
    between the 79230 and 79420 except the plating of the movement.

    I have noticed an accuracy of half a second fast everyday on the wrist. I am
    yet to gauge the accuracy across various positions though. Given the overall
    robustness of the 7750 and IWC's modifications thereon, I would be very
    surprised if this watch did not perform as accurately in the long run.

    Wearing Experience:
    One of the things I had against this watch (other than its extreme lack of
    availability) was its size. On paper it looks huge. At 46 mm in diameter and
    with a height of 17.8 mm, strapped to my diminutive 6.5 " Asian wrist, the
    watch can be perceived to look like a clock! But in person it's a different
    animal altogether. When I had the opportunity to handle this rare beast in
    person and strap it to my wrist, the black case with the simple styled dial
    makes the watch feel perfectly sized on my wrist. Though the watch is quite
    tall at 17.8 mm high, it matches pretty well with the well proportioned 46 mm
    case. Also, given the watch's lightness, you tend to overlook this height when
    you consider whats under the hood - the additional height of rattrapante
    module and the soft iron inner case. Since its black all over and devoid of
    unnecessary bling, its size also goes into the "stealth" mode and wears
    smaller than expected. All in all the watch feels perfectly proportioned on
    the wrist. All in all the watch feels perfectly proportioned on the wrist. It
    neither feels too tall nor too wide to wear. It's a tool, and it looks like
    one!

    Conclusions:
    As I have already mentioned, this is my grail watch - its here to stay. As I
    age and my eyesight deteriorates, the large ample dial and its white marking
    are going to put a smile on my lips. I know may purists may feel that this
    watch borrows on multiple aviator watches without being truthful to any one of
    the lines - the hands inspired by the Beobachtungsuhr, and the dial from the
    Mark XI. Nonetheless, somehow (at least to my happy eyes ;)) they got all the
    good aviator designs in one place and created something so beautiful. It is
    one hundred percent a pilot's tool watch that carves a niche of its own!

    One thing I will admit - the watch was responsible for my spending hours on
    the Microsoft flight simulator, with this baby timing all the flights!

    I hope you have enjoyed this review! Do share your thoughts!

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 3:57 p.m.

    Congratulations on getting your grail - and for a very good and interesting review, thumbs up!!

    For some reason I cannot see your pictures - anybody else experiencing the same?

  • 15 Mar 2015, 3:59 p.m.

    Love your review on this fantastic watch.
    I believe the reason why your pictures are not showing is that the links are to a password protected forum.

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 5:13 p.m.

    Yep the same here.
    The link goes to the rolexforum where you need a valid login. I don't have one.
    www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=598801&stc=1&d=1426427083

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 6:08 p.m.

    Well done. An excellent review and an enjoyable read. Nice watch too!

  • Connoisseur
    15 Mar 2015, 6:11 p.m.

    Thanks guys for pointing out the issue! I have changed the links, so you should be able to see the pictures now. I am so glad that you have enjoyed the review!

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 8:06 p.m.

    Now the pictures are there Sumit, thanks!

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 8:41 p.m.

    Excellent review and great photos - thank you for posting!

  • Master
    15 Mar 2015, 9:17 p.m.

    Nice one mate. You clearly love the watch and I can see why. Top effort.

  • Connoisseur
    16 Mar 2015, 1:21 a.m.
  • Master
    16 Mar 2015, 4:10 a.m.

    Congratulations and thank you for the thorough review. I've been always been looking at this piece from a distance but now I can really appreciate it.

    Wear it in good health!

  • Connoisseur
    16 Mar 2015, 4:14 a.m.

    A beauty, wear it in good health! First class photos too...
    Regarding watch/wrist ratio I'm on the conservative side and that's why I enjoy a lot my grail-in-ceramics, the 3705 which is a perfect match size-wise with its 39 mm on my 6.75" wrist.
    Enjoy your grail, mate! Best,
    Robert

  • Master
    16 Mar 2015, 12:54 p.m.

    Thanks for the review. I am a big fan of the doppels and currently own three.

  • Master
    16 Mar 2015, 3:05 p.m.

    Thanks for sharing with your us passion for the watch! This is certainly a top-notch review!

    I wrote a review on my 3799-01 years ago as well. I thought I had posted a copy on this official forum, but I could not find it (guess perhaps I never did).

    Anyway, here is my post on another (local Hong Kong Chinese forum). Let's share our passion together!

    From Civilian to Top Gun

  • Apprentice
    16 Mar 2015, 3:43 p.m.

    Sumit,

    This is an awesome article for the 3799. I recently acquired the same watch, and I love it! At first I thought the watch is too big for my Asian wrist at 46mm. I went into Tourneau and tried on the 3880. I thought the 46mm was fine on my wrist except the 3880 was missing the double chrono, day window, and the second indicator. Luckily a few weeks of searching for the 3799 and I found a brand new one. I was about to give up and get the 3880.

    I'm an 80 kid so watching Top Gun movie always brought back memories. I used to ride my bicycle outside of the local airport pretending I was Tom Cruise in his 250 Kawa Ninja. LOL Please don't judge me! Anyway, one of these days I will wear this watch on my motorcycle and run down the run way!

  • Connoisseur
    16 Mar 2015, 4:08 p.m.

    Thanks so much guys! I am so happy that you all have enjoyed the review. I have this very forum to thank for many of the facts I was able to gather about this watch. My 3799 smiles too with all the attention its getting :)

    Cheers!

    Sumit

  • Connoisseur
    16 Mar 2015, 4:17 p.m.

    That a great review you have penned down Kelvin! Love the analogies you have drawn to illustrate the strengths of the venerable 7750. I completely agree with you on this - the reliability of the 7750 is absolutely top-notch.

    It is rumored to have one of the highest first time pass rates at the COSC. And when IWC does its magic to the best of the 7750's....well as Dave Bowman said "Something's going to happen, something wonderful"

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    17 Jul 2017, 3:31 p.m.

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  • Apprentice
    18 Aug 2017, 1:08 p.m.

    Thanks much for the review. Very informative.