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MK XI on auction, case number doesn't match up

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  • last reply by Reinold 15 Feb 2017
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    Mr. Reinold Disse
    Apprentice 5 posts
    16 Jun 2016, 10:44 a.m. 16 Jun 2016, 10:44 a.m.
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    auctionata.com/en/o/236056/iwc-military-wristwatch-switzerland-c-1955?memid=233700

    This IWC is being auctioned, but take a look at this:
    Watch case no. 6B/346; 181/52; movement no. 1214948

    I think the 181 is not correct. A 1952 MK XI should be higher than 1800 anyway.
    What could be wrong here?

    regards,
    Reinold

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    Rave
    Master 3148 posts
    16 Jun 2016, 11:53 a.m. 16 Jun 2016, 11:53 a.m.
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    If it doesn't add up, it's best avoided. There is always a degree of risk associated with buying a Mark XI. Having said that, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that movements and cases were mixed up when serviced by the MOD.

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    16 Jun 2016, 8:39 p.m. 16 Jun 2016, 8:39 p.m.
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    It might be that I do not understand what precisely is meant here but I guess some explanation about the numbers of Mk 11 watches might be useful.
    First of all, the cases of a military Mk 11 ( there are also civlian ones) has no case serial number but only a military inscription on the outside of the case back. The number 181/52 means that this is watch nr. 181 issued in 1952 by RAF. The movement number is from 1950 and was allocated to a cal 89 INCA S.C. This exactly the movement of a Mk 11. The fact that the movement was made in 1950 and the watch issued in 1952 is not alarming but normal. I have not seen the watch but its numbering looks ok to me for being a genuine Mk 11 from 1952. And I thought that was the question asked.
    Kind regards,
    Adrian
    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Jeremy Ong
    Graduate 23 posts
    17 Jun 2016, 7:39 a.m. 17 Jun 2016, 7:39 a.m.
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    STAY AWAY from Auctionata.

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    Mr. Todd Wilding
    Connoisseur 326 posts
    17 Jun 2016, 2:59 p.m. 17 Jun 2016, 2:59 p.m.
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    I would have to agree with XEER regarding Auctionata. I had a nightmarish experience with them last year and I'm not alone..

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    Mr. Reinold Disse
    Apprentice 5 posts
    15 Feb 2017, 9:01 a.m. 15 Feb 2017, 9:01 a.m.
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    alwaysiwc has written:

    The number 181/52 means that this is watch nr. 181 issued in 1952 by RAF. The movement number is from 1950 and was allocated to a cal 89 INCA S.C. This exactly the movement of a Mk 11.
    (alwaysiwc).

    Hi Adrian, I thought that the RAF numbers were always consecutive. starting at 1 and going op throughout the years. The first watch in 1950 could not have 181. It would be over 1800 I believe. I have number 816/48. Therefore 181/52 would not be possible.

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