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New HP Smartwatch looks like Ingenieur ?

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  • last reply by pdnb 29 Aug 2014
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    Martin
    Insider 73 posts
    2 Aug 2014, 5:29 p.m. 2 Aug 2014, 5:29 p.m.
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    What do you guys think ?
    Doesn't look too original design to me.

    o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/7e1d3c23bc17844f7859a75a9de29ce0/200516379/hp-michael-bastian-smartwatch-2014-08-01-03.jpg

    Engadget HP Smartwatch

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    Martin
    Insider 73 posts
    2 Aug 2014, 5:39 p.m. 2 Aug 2014, 5:39 p.m.
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    media3.iwc.com/site_media/thumbnails/d0/4c/Ing_Perpcal_Alligator_rgb_1.d04c99969d21eb99a42fc40bcfa7e3ef.jpg

    o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/6d20fb9f16c356d6eee2b1a980164746/200516311/hp-michael-bastian-smartwatch-2014-08-01-02.jpg

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    Mr. s p
    Graduate 11 posts
    13 Aug 2014, 11:53 a.m. 13 Aug 2014, 11:53 a.m.
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    I agree with you! Even down to the detail around the bezel. Guess they are trying to make it look less tetchy and more fashionable for the main stream.

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    Mr. Thomas Vigetorp
    Connoisseur 148 posts
    13 Aug 2014, 1:08 p.m. 13 Aug 2014, 1:08 p.m.
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    To me this looks like an outright design rip-off by HP.

    Thomas

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    Cesus
    Master 820 posts
    13 Aug 2014, 5:28 p.m. 13 Aug 2014, 5:28 p.m.
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    brand fraud?

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    Slashd0t
    Connoisseur 355 posts
    13 Aug 2014, 6:15 p.m. 13 Aug 2014, 6:15 p.m.
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    This is brutal... IWC should be all over this..

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    Mr. Anders Johansson
    Master 736 posts
    13 Aug 2014, 10:31 p.m. 13 Aug 2014, 10:31 p.m.
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    Yes I agree, it's definitely a rip off, should be a solid base for legal measures?

    Michael, what's your professional view?

    /Anders

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    14 Aug 2014, 2:30 p.m. 14 Aug 2014, 2:30 p.m.
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    Hi Anders,

    I really don't have a professional view since it's a very different area of the law, and it also varies by country. I believe that the standard is not "similarity" but rather "likelihood of confusion".

    I would guess that the Ingenieur design was not copyrighted, or if it was the copyright might have expired. That, plus the fact that the buyer of 300 USD or so Smartwatch would guess it wasn't by IWC due to price and the LCD display, presumably makes any such case an uphill battle. But as stated I'm not expert here and it's just an opinion.

    I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Perhaps some HP Smartwatch buyers will then purchase a real watch by IWC!

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    Mr. Thomas Vigetorp
    Connoisseur 148 posts
    14 Aug 2014, 2:54 p.m. 14 Aug 2014, 2:54 p.m.
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    If they purchase the 3792 perpetual calendar above, they would have 2 smart watches. ;-)

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    Slashd0t
    Connoisseur 355 posts
    14 Aug 2014, 3:34 p.m. 14 Aug 2014, 3:34 p.m.
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    AP successfully won against SWI and others for infringing on the Royal Oaks design. My guess is that IWC has paid a fair sum to Gerald Genta to use this design.. I'm assuming HP hasn't paid anything except to a design agency that clearly just steals designs vs creating something new..

    I sure hope someone @ HP realizes what has happened here..

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    Mr. Thomas Vigetorp
    Connoisseur 148 posts
    14 Aug 2014, 8:36 p.m. 14 Aug 2014, 8:36 p.m.
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    People who know watches will know the difference and the origins of the design. But if this HP watch becomes a success, others seeing an Ingenieur for the first time could assume the design was copied from HP and not the other way around. And then you have a several tens of thousands euro watch being associated with an electronic device. IMO, IWC should at least have their legal people look into this.

    Thomas

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    Martin
    Insider 73 posts
    15 Aug 2014, 6:54 a.m. 15 Aug 2014, 6:54 a.m.
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    The worst part is that HP most likely paid arm and leg to this so called "designer" w/o having a clue that their watch is just imitation. Or is HP doing to IWC what Hublot did to AP ? :-)

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    Mr. Jarrod Gill
    Master 3720 posts
    15 Aug 2014, 8:52 a.m. 15 Aug 2014, 8:52 a.m.
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    It's a clear rip off but given its price point/what it actually is, I doubt IWC will give it a second thought. If it was a Swiss watch maker releasing a new mechanical wrist watch, that's a bit different. IMHO.

    Cheers,

    Jarrod

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    Mr. Norbert Scheepers
    Master 2703 posts
    15 Aug 2014, 11:51 a.m. 15 Aug 2014, 11:51 a.m.
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    They could have stayed with their original 1977 design:

    www.mixedgrill.nl/wp-content/uploads/hp-smart-watch-1.jpg

    This one sold a few days ago for $14.500 on the bay. I'd still prefer a IWC for that amount of money....

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    15 Aug 2014, 4:59 p.m. 15 Aug 2014, 4:59 p.m.
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    NorbertS has written:

    They could have stayed with their original 1977 design:

    www.mixedgrill.nl/wp-content/uploads/hp-smart-watch-1.jpg

    This one sold a few days ago for $14.500 on the bay. I'd still prefer a IWC for that amount of money....

    Well, this seems to be a prototype of the final HP-01 ?!

    My was a little bit cheaper :-)

    But it has the usual watch design of this era.

    And it was also similar to an IWC model :-)

    derjonk.de/lizard/70er-design.jpg

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    Mr. Norbert Scheepers
    Master 2703 posts
    15 Aug 2014, 5:33 p.m. 15 Aug 2014, 5:33 p.m.
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    So actually, history is repeating itself here :-)

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    Ben
    Master 1982 posts
    19 Aug 2014, 7:42 a.m. 19 Aug 2014, 7:42 a.m.
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    [QUOTE="T_G"]If they purchase the 3792 perpetual calendar above, they would have 2 smart watches. ;-)[/QUOTE

    touché

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    Mr. Christoph Burckhardt
    Master 1095 posts
    19 Aug 2014, 7:21 p.m. 19 Aug 2014, 7:21 p.m.
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    ...I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Perhaps some HP Smartwatch buyers will then purchase a real watch by IWC![/QUOTE]

    Michael,you hit the nail with this final statement, I couldn't agree more! But at same time I also think that IWC's legal departement should have a closer look at it.

    Cheers Chris

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    Mr. Jarrod Gill
    Master 3720 posts
    20 Aug 2014, 9:29 a.m. 20 Aug 2014, 9:29 a.m.
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    NorbertS has written:

    They could have stayed with their original 1977 design:

    www.mixedgrill.nl/wp-content/uploads/hp-smart-watch-1.jpg

    This one sold a few days ago for $14.500 on the bay. I'd still prefer a IWC for that amount of money....

    That's pretty cool. Retro as.

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    Darron Young
    Insider 62 posts
    29 Aug 2014, 6:31 a.m. 29 Aug 2014, 6:31 a.m.
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    this HP 1977 is actually really cool

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