I really feel the urge to give an elaborate reply on this topic as I am one of the younger collectors and find this discussion immensely interesting.
First things first.
Gianfranco d'Attis, I wish you all the best at your new position at Chloe. Edouard Maulbon D'Arbaumont, the same applies for you. I wish you good luck in your position.
Honestly , I have never heard of either one of these persons. This doesn’t mean I undermine their efforts and impact on the forum. This being said though, I think they could make a whole lot of more impact if they weren’t switched out in the same ratio a Dunkin Donuts box in a New York police car gets switched out.
I think for any collector of any brand the most important person to go to is a person that can verify authenticity, gives historical information and is a reliable source when confronting them with possible new information who is a lasting liability. When it comes to IWC , you need double D’s
Definitely David.
Long time and experienced collectors can also help you a long way.
Now let’s dive a little deeper in the discussion that has evolved from this simple welcoming post. Very interesting points from both sides of the discussion. I think we really have to make some nuances though. As I understand correctly from some comments, and please correct me when I’m wrong, there is to a certain extend some anxiety about a younger generation lacking interest and the capability of valuing the historical and technical aspect of a watch.
Of course there will always be a group that is fashion driven. No doubt. And yes also these people will find some pieces of IWC attractive and have different priorities. If a commercial company like IWC notices this change, knows how to make money out it to ensure continuity for the company, then I think this is something we all benefit from. At the end of the day. That is the number 1 goal of a any company. Ensuring continuity.
Yet, I don’t think that the majority of IWC buyers are fashion driven (this might be a false assumption, but based on my own experience I would say that). IWC is known to be a technical brand to be all about functionality , practicality and innovation. As more man and woman enter jobs in the technical work field, I find it nothing but logical for IWC to participate in this trend and prepare an interesting offering in watch portfolio to this target demographic. These are persons to value the mechanics and value the historical aspects of the watch.
Also, the last decade where we have seen a huge appreciation of vintage watches which had to do for a big deal with the rise of social media. Well…my granddad does not use any social media. What I like to say with this is that in different price segments , a broader awareness was being planted to a younger generation. What also came with this is the availability of information and resources. The younger generation also knows where to find these resources.
So what about the older guys? Are they so far off? Are they not that in touch with the younger people at all?
Absolutely not.
The older guys are regarded as the most respected guys. They can make your doubts go away, tell interesting stories and introduce you to other collectors etc.. See how respected John Goldberger is. Talking about the atmosphere of the younger collectors. For this reason I cannot emphasize enough how important the contributions of the older ( I would prefer to say “ more experienced”) collectors are. I am also getting tired every now and then of seeing the same wrist shots over and over again. But I love the wide variety of collectors. Both from cultural background , as watch knowledge background. Everyone teaches each other.
I absolutely agree that some pieces are leaning for more towards the fashion part rather than the part that IWC became known for in it’s glory days. I personally believe that such companies as IWC have an institutional value and should preserve that value. For example. If Patek would switch completely to quartz , you would be seriously pissed. They would never do it, partly because they are very aware of there institutional value. This value should also be carried out in terms of key design of the different collection if you ask me. And yes, every brand has it’s hits and misses and told earlier by another collector. You should never get out of touch with your true DNA.
Now I would like to end my comment with saying the following.
I personally don’t see how some actions of current members limit the likeability of the forum for people from a certain geographical area. I think it’s very ironic that in a culture where having “face” is so important, they apparently don’t show theirs on the forum.
I mean, if you would like to see changes on the forum , wouldn’t the forum itself be a good place to start to propose these possible changes to?