Hi,
1) I would like to know exaclty the difference from the following Models. They are both Red Gold:
Someone told me that the strap AND Red Gold color are different.
2) Both are currently beeing produced ?
I apprecite some comments.
Thank you.
Alex
The -22 is the current model, and has some minor redesign features plus 5N red gold, which has more copper in it and looks more red than the prior 3N gold. Also there are dial design differences, including if you look at the moon phase, which has the number of days on the inside circumference, a globe design in the centre, and different N/S pointers on the outside. The -19 model is neither in the current catalog nor current production.
P.S. I edited your post to remove pricing, per forum rules. Sorry, and thanks for understanding.
Dear sir. Sorry for my fault about prices.
So, I didn´t note this difference in moon phase from the photos that I took from the web regarding this two models. This difference I noted in the oldest model that is wrote "Perpetual Calendar" at moon phase dial and the number is 502101.
I´m wrong ? Do you have some photos to check it ?
Thank you again.
Alex
Michael, I am attempting to use the quote function for the first time - so forgive it doesn't appear correctly.
A question - is the 5023 still in production? I see it in the collection section. Can you describe what type of gold is used for the 23?
Thanks, Eric
Eric -
The Portuguese Perptual Calendar Ref# 5023 comes in 2 variants in the current catalog (certainly, there may be other limited/boutique editions with different dials, or engravings for specific editions, retailers, etc)
The 5023 was introduced in 2010, and the 5022 was discontinued. It is made in 18k White Gold, and 18k Red Gold. Instead of IWC producing 2 separate types of cases for the Portuguese Perpetual, with different dimensions and bezel shapes for their 5021 and 5022 - they introduced the 5023 - which is the same dial and features as the former 5022 - but with the same case and bezel as the 5021. I think this helps them "rationalize" and limit extra production steps.
Richard,
thank you for the information. You say the 5023 was introduced in 2010 -- could you clarify which version of the 5023 was introduced in 2010? I know that I have seen 5023's that were produced prior to 2010.
Thanks, Eric (and thanks for the response to my IW magazine post)
Hi Eric,
I'm not Richard, but if I may help. The Portuguese Perpetual Ref 5023xx was released in 2010 in 2 versions, Rose (5N) Gold and White Gold. They look very similar to the Ref 5022xx (which they have replaced) having the same dial designs and features but now appear in a larger case (the same as the Ref 5021xx).
You may well have seen a Ref 5022xx and be confusing it with the newer model as they are very alike.
HTH,
David
David, you are correct. I was confusing the new 5023 with the older 5022. I had to look at the model number on my own watch.
Thanks to you and Richard for the great information.
Cheers, Eric
Hello
Id like to know the main diferences between IW502122 x IWC 503202 both in red gold.
tks
The biggest difference between the 5023 and the 5032 is a double moon complication and a Northern/Southern Hemispheres indication that comes with the 5032.
I appreciate the answer, but I still in doubt. between 5021 NOT 5023 and 5032 - From the pictures available on the Internet both are visually identical.
regards
Antonio
Go to discussion 63171 for the technical differences.
Visually, they are not the same. The 5021 has the words "Perpetual Calendar" in the moon register; the 5032 shows the age of the moon.
Hello,
Im sorry but the 5021 doesnt show the inscription perpetual calendar. the 5019 firts model has this inscription. that why im in doubt.
tks
If you google "iwc ref. 5021" you will see lots of pictures of the 5021. The words "Perpetual Calendar" are on the moon register. I have no idea why you don't see that or what you are looking at.
Hello, regardless of which model you choose. they are both beautiful . I'm lusting after a 44mm double moon. The single moon has the stars in the background which are quite beautiful. Decisions, Decisions !!