• Apprentice
    10 Apr 2021, 3:40 a.m.

    Dear fellow IWC aficionados, I could use some constructive advice on how to
    deal with IWC warranty service. My 3716 Portugieser chrono, bought new in
    early 2020, has been to the Texas service center twice, and they sent it back
    twice without fixing the issue. The issue being the chronograph locking up and
    stopping the whole watch with regularity.

    I'm hoping that more experienced forum members will have advice on how to
    proceed; clearly the communication with the service center is not working, and
    they are not verifying that the problem has been fixed before returning my
    watch.

    The long version:

    I had been really smitten with the Portugieser chronograph, both the 3712
    rattraprante and the 3714 'standard', since they appeared in the 90s. Handling
    a standard 3714 chrono at an AD around 2000 left me disappointed with what I
    thought was a bit rough and uneven pusher feel, so I waited patiently for a
    movement update. This finally happened with the 150th anniversary limited
    edition, but that one had a different dial, which, while no doubt special, was
    not what I wanted. I waited another few years for the standard version with
    applied numerals, and early in 2020 I finally bought my 371604.

    Appearance wise the watch is pretty much everything I hoped for, but on the
    functional side I pretty soon started noticing that the watch would stop
    occasionally for no good reason. I eventually figured out that the chronograph
    clutch (oscillating pinion), which I believe is a straight copy of the same
    proven mechanism in the 7750, would come to engage and rest against two teeth
    of the chronograph seconds wheel, and lock up the whole watch mechanism. It's
    a bit hard to see through the caseback, and I have not been able to take good
    macro pictures of it, but I believe this is the underlying reason for the
    malfunction.

    I described this to my local IWC boutique, and they agreed that this shouldn't
    happen, and offered to send the watch in to the Texas service center. It came
    back a month later, very well regulated -it had also been running 12 seconds
    fast a day on average- , but with the chronograph issue unchanged. About every
    80th or so start of the chronograph the watch movement would lock up.
    Sometimes it would repeat every few starts, sometimes it wouldn't happen for a
    long time, but on average every eighty chronograph uses the watch movement
    would come to a halt.

    When I realized this, I talked again to the boutique manager, and this time
    wrote up a short but detailed description of the issue and how to reproduce
    it. The boutique manager entered this description in their internal electronic
    service request note, I attached my laminated note with a piece of string to
    the watch, left it in the locked up position, and off it went again to the
    service center. TIme estimate was 12 weeks, because the watch would go to
    Switzerland.

    Fast forward four weeks, and the watch is back at the boutique. Right in the
    store it locks up twice in the first 25 chronograph starts. So they clearly
    didn't fix it, and I also assume it was actually not sent to Switzerland. The
    manager advised to keep the watch with me for now, while he would make some
    phone calls to decide on the best course of action. At home I determined that
    the lockup now happens about every sixteen chronograph starts, a factor five
    worse than before. It also seems an overly strong mainspring was installed,
    since the watch now rebanks and runs very fast (>+500s/day) when fully wound,
    and the screws securing the autowinder bridge show slight bulging next to the
    slots, which I'm afraid might be due to overtorquing.

    The boutique manager now tells me that they have done all they can, and that I
    need to contact the original AD if I want to initiate an exchange request. I'm
    going to do that, but in the meantime I thought I would inquire here regarding
    this very odd experience. I find it hard to believe that an IWC service center
    would not be able to fix such an obvious and, at least the second time, very
    clearly described issue.

    So, same question as above: What's the best way to communicate with IWC on an
    issue like this? Is there a contact for IWC Switzerland?

    And second: has anybody else had an issue like this? I only found one other
    mention of a similar issue, with a Portofino chrono. The 7750, which I believe
    has the same clutch mechanism, is not a rare movement, so if this were a
    design issue, I believe it would have been discovered long ago. So this is
    either an adjustment problem, or a malformed part that needs to be exchanged,
    but nothing really complicated. How can they not be able to fix this, twice?

  • Apprentice
    16 May 2021, 11:52 p.m.

    Does anybody have any advice on how to deal with the Texas service center, or
    how to make sure a watch gets sent to Switzerland?

  • Connoisseur
    17 May 2021, 2:17 p.m.

    Sorry you suffered this fate with your Chrono.

    I'm pretty sure seeing your complaint on the forum will make Schaffhausen
    pick-up your problem. Maybe it will speed up the whole process if you send
    your contact details to the moderator, so that Schaffhausen knows how to
    contact you short hand.

    Th. Koenig

  • Apprentice
    22 May 2021, 6:23 a.m.

    Thank you, Tonny. I sent you an email.

  • Apprentice
    28 May 2021, 5:08 a.m.

    Update: The AD heard back from the Texas service center. The service center
    states the watch is passing all their tests and is ready to be sent back, even
    though it still locks up, in their testing after 120 chronograph starts. (It
    sounded like they only tested once.)

    The AD will communicate to the service center that returning a malfunctioning
    watch is not acceptable. The AD states that they unfortunately never get to
    communicate directly with any watchmaker or service technician at the service
    center, so it is difficult to assess how much (if any) of the problem
    description is actually given to the watchmaker, and no information is
    returned on the work performed, parts exchanged etc..

    I sincerely hope Tonny can get through to IWC.

  • Apprentice
    26 Jun 2021, 3:16 a.m.

    Still no news, and still without a watch. How long does one typically have to
    wait until IWC decides on exchanging a watch?

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    Thread title has been changed from advice needed on 3716 malfunction - service center failed twice to fix it.

  • Apprentice
    17 Jul 2021, 8:33 p.m.

    Update: The AD sent me a new watch, and threw in an IWC hat and an IWC two
    watch travel case! I'm so glad this is finally resolved, but still
    flabbergasted at the handling of this incident by IWC.

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    Thread title has been changed from advice needed on 3716 malfunction - service center failed three times to fix it.