• Master
    20 Jan 2016, 9:07 a.m.

    The position of the date window disturbs the dial design.

    One thing is wrong.

    • Either the movement is too small

    • Or the case is too big

    Less could be more :-)

    derjonk.de/lizard/IW327004.jpg

  • Master
    20 Jan 2016, 10:59 a.m.

    In your proposal, I would put the date a fraction more to the left.

    I wonder about different sized date wheels for a movement. As the date wheel is on top, not needing to touch anything, why aren't different sized date wheels used to accomodate the design of the watch? You would think that a margin of 1 or 2 mm should be possible, that would make a huge difference. Maybe a broad date wheel is the right solution, where the diameter of the circle of the printed numbers is flexible, delivering the desired result.

    Kind regards,
    Paul

  • Connoisseur
    20 Jan 2016, 11:25 a.m.

    well, they already had it once...
    www.riihelaenterprises.com/my_img/iwc_mkxii_116.jpeg

  • Master
    20 Jan 2016, 11:47 a.m.

    Sure, but I would prefer without date and hand wound.

    That was the ORIGINAL concept.

    derjonk.de/lizard/mark-date.jpg

  • Connoisseur
    20 Jan 2016, 2:09 p.m.

    MK 11 is very nice and desirable, of course, but I'm actually partial to MK IX ZS - maybe we could call it a "pre-concept" :)
    (picture borrowed from net, with some slight processing by me)
    www.riihelaenterprises.com/my_img/iwc_mkix_zs_1.jpeg

  • Connoisseur
    20 Jan 2016, 7:28 p.m.

    Thanks JiiPee for this info. Pity the new movements couldnt be used, a lot of brands are stepping in with proprierty developed movements and i was heappy to read last year IWC has 2 new families in the pipeline for entry levle models. Mark 18 would have been a great first.

    Any idea`s to why ? wasnt production ready yet ?

  • Connoisseur
    20 Jan 2016, 9:03 p.m.

    Guys are you 100% positive that IWC uses Sellita movements? I know that they are allmost the same (if not THE same) as ETA, but it seem kinda odd.

  • Connoisseur
    22 Jan 2016, 2:14 p.m.

    There’s a lot to like about the new pilots but I have to agree with this point. And it would be a deal breaker for me. On a watch like this with a not very exciting movement, the case, dial and bracelet/strap need to be great to justify its price. Sadly and surprisingly this is not.

    /Thomas

  • Connoisseur
    22 Jan 2016, 7:31 p.m.

    The discussion about the position of the date on the Mark XVIII seems, as I experienced in Geneva, of a rather theoretical nature to me.
    Just by judging from the pictures I shared the desire for a date positioned closer to the outer rim. Standing before the real watch at the IWC booth gave me a totally different feeling, I did not have any bad feelings about this detail. The watch is really beautiful in the flesh.
    And keep in mind, that this is -if at all- just a point at the LPP Version, the watches with black and white dials have a date in matching colors, so this should not be a concern there.
    I have to say I really liked the LPP edition a lot.