• Connoisseur
    18 Nov 2014, 8:04 a.m.

    Good for Rolex. With respect to IWC, I have no problem with the movement at hand, which looks perfectly fine to my eyes. I've seen what a truly unfinished movement looks like, and this simply ain't it.

    Trust me, I more than understand the impulse to pile on with righteous indignation and rake IWC over the coals here, but I've been in the game long enough to recognize a non-starter when I see one. The caliber 89000 family of chronographs are rightly lauded for their performance and features, and a couple of Geneva stripes won't change this one way or another.

    Some will refuse to let go, decrying the brand for selling them a hollow dream, which is their right, but I'll be too busy admiring the dial while timing my son's laps in the pool(and anything else I can think of) to care. The CF3 is destined to be remembered as a classic, movement and all.

    Regards,
    Adam

  • Insider
    18 Nov 2014, 9:31 a.m.

    WIth all due respect I think that there may be a considerable amount of people agreeing with Jarrod.

    This kind of reminds me Of my younger years when my friends would meet up at our local bar, our passion then was rally cars, unfortunately, as always one of the guys who knew everything, if you had a black cat his was blacker and no matter what you bought it was below him because his views were the only ones that mattered.
    To cut a long story short, we all grew up, got married, had children and a few years ago met up at our old local to begin our reunion, to our amusement our old friend that we kept as a friend even though he often didn't deserve it was sat alone, as nobody else obviously would put up with his rudeness and disrespect to others.

    David

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 8:19 p.m.

    Tonny, thanks for posting this great pics.

    It is a real pity that your post is used for such a discussion hold in such a way.
    Fair enough if the one or the other would have liked a different finishing on the movement. At it is also fair enough to state it here in this forum, but please as a personal wish, as constructive criticism (which unfortunately is not always the case here). That would give IWC some input to take into consideration or not for their decisions on future watches / movements.

    Furthermore I am not aware that IWC owes us anything. They are free to take a movement of a fake watch you can buy in Patpong market, put it in one of their cases and sell the watch for 20k if they think this is the right strategy.

    I had a big laugh reading some of the comments, because I was imagining that person going into a Porsche Center and shouting at the sales man there: "I am not going to buy the Cayenne because it is not a Porsche anymore. It is a Volkswagen, and even Volkswagen puts a more colored engine in his car! Do you know that I know the Porsche family? And do you know that bought in the past a lot of Porsches, of which I sold all again except one or two? your company has the duty to build a Porsche the way I want!"
    Interesting scenario, isn't it?

    And finally, with all due respect, nobody else knows how I am feeling when having a specific watch on my wrist.

    Let's get back to watches;-)
    Am still waiting to pick up my CF3, thus I don't know how I will feel when it is on my wrist. But I guess I will feel great.

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 8:29 p.m.

    All of us that have picked it up thus far are feeling great. I think you will also, Giovanni

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 8:30 p.m.

    Well said. I agree. Moving on... can't wait to pick mine up. Only 48 days to go!!!!!

    Cheers,

    Jarrod

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 9:01 p.m.

    Word!
    Best,
    -Christian

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 9:57 p.m.

    An interesting scenario indeed.

  • Master
    18 Nov 2014, 10:20 p.m.

    Well spoken (actually written)Giovanni! ...an interesting scenario indeed!

    The A's are right of course - both Adam and Allan. I am under the understanding that David (regulateur) was not in favour of CF3 from day one ( in fact quiet the opposite - from his posts at the time I had understood and had a clear interpretation that he was desively against the CF3 ( for whatever reason).

    So therefor assume he nether ordered ( unless secretly) a CF3 - and/or took care about the quality of the movement.

    David, let me know if you wish me to find a boutique for you which still might have one on stock for you to procure - then you could open the watch and check for yourself - with 100% of the motivation being correct. You could state then based on your own emotions and feelings of owning the watch on your wrist, what level of finish it has.

  • Master
    19 Nov 2014, 4:32 a.m.

    There are plenty of pigs out there wearing lipstick under glass backs with really poor finishing. Finishing is a functional specification; not an asthetic one, and the CF3 was built for a select few who should already know the difference. For me, the watch meets my expectations.

  • 19 Nov 2014, 8:42 a.m.

    +1

    Cheers Chris

  • Master
    19 Nov 2014, 12:56 p.m.

    Terry, I couldn't agree more.

  • Apprentice
    19 Nov 2014, 7:23 p.m.

    Giovanni: Your scenario is really funny, I had to laugh. Thank you for this!! I imagined possible scenarios of reaction of the sales person, and I would immeadately know which one would lead to success.

    BTW: I was unaware that you are such a fan of Porsche. You are living in Germany, right? It's a pity that IWC does not produce PD watches anymore.

    I am looking forward to another addition to my IWC collection, which should arrive soon. And no, it will not be a CF3, it will be a genuine, modern serial model :-)))

  • Graduate
    20 Nov 2014, 4:19 a.m.

    I guess it's not about "forcing" the company to build something that you want. The focus is really customer centricity here. If the company does not need to care about consumer needs, why sell things to them then?

  • Master
    20 Nov 2014, 4:27 a.m.

    I guess, in life, there is always the kind of people that would complain about the catering at a funeral....

    The antimagnetic cage looks very cool. I doubt I will ever see the inside of my one. I don't think I would ever have the courage to pop the back off incase I damaged something. So seeing these pics is great.

    One day closer until I pick my one up.

    Cheers,

    Jarrod

  • Apprentice
    20 Nov 2014, 1:44 p.m.

    Jarrod, I think it is really hard to talk about a funeral here.

  • Master
    21 Nov 2014, 3:53 p.m.

    Amen, but ....

    There was another IWC Fliegeruhr (vintage) without movement decoration, the Mark XII.

    So, the CF3 follows the tradition of the Mark XII, why not :-)

  • Master
    21 Nov 2014, 6:03 p.m.

    Neither the cal 52SC on the Ref431 and the RN HS3, nor the cal 71 on the RN HS 3 have any decorations. These were military watches built for toughness and precision, to help get a job done under extreme conditions - perlage and cotes de Genéve would not have helped.