• 25 Mar 2020, 7:28 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 5 :

    For today I wanted to post a SchutzenUhr, a price watch for a shooting

    IWC made several for these competitions, that are mainly held in Switserland,
    some in Germany.

    Most of the IWC SchutzenUhren were made for the Swiss competitions, but some
    were for Germany too,

    I always thought that I had a SchutzenUhr from the 1912 Frankfurter
    SchutzenFest and wanted this one to post here.

    So took it out the banksafe, did my research in the forum archives ...to then
    see that mine was not really the same as the one I saw in an earlier post.

    That post is here ; forum.iwc.com/t/the-first- of-25/2820/4/#post-217802

    I checked the numbers on the case and caliber : these are OK, dial is OK, case
    is OK except for the case decoration, missing the mention of being a

    A mystery and we can start speculating how this was possible. I know of
    another Schutzenuhr that came in two editions, as a SchutzenUhr and also as a
    "civilian" one without the name SchutzenUhr written on the dial. Is it
    something like that ? Maybe someone knows...

    Even in your own collection you can make discoveries browsing these old posts
    on the forum.

    Inside we have the bestseller of the IWC pocketwatch calibers, the cal 52

    A special feature is the brand name on the dial, typical for that era.

  • Master
    25 Mar 2020, 7:30 p.m.

    What a wonderful example of these prize watches (in disguise) Tonny.

    We go from Frankfurt Germany back in time by by 5 years to 1907 in Zurich

    Here is my example of the second prize catagory ( Silver - First Prizes were
    Gold in many but not all competitions).

    The movement is a humbe Cal. 52 Lepine - a stable workhorse of a movement from
    IWC for many years.

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 10:19 a.m.

    Over the years IWC made a large series of Schutzenuhren and so did other
    brands ( Longines, Zenith, Vacheron Constatin etc.)

    Here is the list of all Schutzenuhren made by IWC for different towns in
    Switzerland and



  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 10:42 a.m.

    Thanks for sharing this list Adrian.

    So 25 different timepieces in total, before Tonny can say he has the entire
    Collection Schnutzenuhr in house?

    .... or is it 26 Adrian?

    Here below, is an example of a Schnutzenuhr watch in my Collection - which
    watch was NOT an actual prize watch, but part of a limited series issued
    around the event?

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 11:44 a.m.

    Well Mark, at least the box was from the 'real' Schutzenfest. I do not know
    whether the box is original to the watch. There was a watch for the 50th
    federal shooting competition in Lucerne, 1979, but the inscription on your
    watch is too small to read properly. Watches which had as rich decorated
    cases as the Schutzenfest watches were also made to commemorate athletic games
    ( Turnfest) or a centennial jubilee of a town.(Lucerne!)



  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 12:26 p.m.

    The Box is original to the Watch.

    We know that IWC (as well as Zenith) produced watches for the 1979 Luzern

    As we see below, IWC produced 3 different models/versions of the Watch all
    bearing the artwork (an image of William Tell created by the artist Hans
    Erni). The IWC models were:

    • 100 Full Hunter savonette Pieces in sterling silver fitted with Cal. 982
    • 50 Open Face Lepine pieces in gold fitted with Cal. 952

    These watches above were actual prize watches and issued to winners of the
    shooting fest.

    However, in a rather unusual and not as yet fully understood motivation it
    appears that IWC Schaffhausen also took an order for:

    • 1000 pieces of an Open Face Lepine version in sterling silver fitted with a Cal. 952.

    As far as I am aware, only 565 pieces out of the 1000 were actually prodcuced.

    The Watch I show is one of the 565 produced.

    Some information is available out on the web about the artist too.

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 12:35 p.m.

    Perfect research Mark.

    Does one of these watches not say on the dial : '800 years Luzern'?



  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 12:37 p.m.

    'Detective Mark' at his best, great story and material Mark!!!

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 1:12 p.m.

    They all have texts - but mine does not have "800 Years Luzern"'

    Here is mine - Dial Side.

    It also has the engraving on the inside.

    And of Course the Artwork.

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 1:45 p.m.

    OK Mark, your watch is absolutely the one for the Schutzenfest.

    The last Schutzenfest watch was for Thun, Switzerland in 1995. They made 2
    models pocket watch but also for the first ( and last time?) a wrist




  • 26 Mar 2020, 1:54 p.m.

    The 800 year Luzern is a different one. I once saw an article that less than
    10 were made...

    To be seen in a near future on the forum

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 2:14 p.m.


    Ups, my collage is back again.

    And another one:

    And the tiny ZENITH Cal.:

    Some information is available out on the web about the artist too.

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 2:33 p.m.

    I found that collage saved on my PC (did you share it with us on the forum or
    web ?)

    I could have / should have realized it was your collage. Absolute great work.
    All credit to you.

    that zenith is superb too!

  • Master
    26 Mar 2020, 2:50 p.m.

    Thanks Mark.

    The calalog page with increased quality.

  • Graduate
    27 Mar 2020, 10:40 a.m.

    Very interesting thread about the Schutzenuhren!

    I personally know of another Schutzenuhr. It is not related to a Federal
    Schutzenfest but to the Kantonalschutzenfest in Schaffhausen in 1895.
    Therefore I don't know if this watch does qualify for being on the list of
    "The 25" (or 26).

  • Master
    27 Mar 2020, 11:42 a.m.

    This is absolutely amazingly intresting!

    Please PM E-mail me on markXlevinsohn dot net (where X is @ and then .net ),
    so that I can do some extra research with you.

  • Master
    27 Mar 2020, 1:34 p.m.

    You made a new
    discovery. In none of the reference books ( Meis and Tolke & King) this watch
    is not reported. Also I could not find any documentation on the internet on
    that one. It must be a very rare
    1895 is lacking! It would be interesting to contact David Seyffer, the museum
    curator about this new find.




  • edit

    Thread title has been changed from VIRTUAL POCKET WATCH MUSEUM DAY 5.

  • Master
    29 Mar 2020, 5:23 p.m.

    The watch is pretty interesting and unique in more ways than one. Our museum
    curator had to get into the archives and mine deep into the sales records.

    The findings:

    It is unique; only one was made.

    It was sold to an employee called Ad. Graber September 6 1895.

    That matches with the inscription; it was a "gift of honour" (Ehrengabe) from
    the workers of the Rauschenbach Watch Factory / IWC to him.

    Most probable explanation is that the employees did a fundraising of sorts,
    and then donated the watch to the committee of the Schutzenfest.

  • Apprentice
    5 Apr 2024, 10:30 a.m.

    Another pocket IWC watch, 1891, in my collection, extremely rare. Waiting to replace the broken dial, extremely hard to find it...