• Mr. Tonny Bertelootpanorama_fish_eye

    Member since: 28/10/2002
    5 years

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 81, cal 57, 1905

    Going through my collection is fun for me too as I discover or better re-
    discover watches I have for some time and were stored in the bank.

    An example of this, is the pocketwatch I present today in our virtual museum.

    I took it out of the safe, took some pictures of it, searched the folder on my
    computer and then realized that I had already made a post of this gold cal 57.

    You can find it here on day 10.

    Or didn't I ? Went back to the safe and saw this

    Did I really bought the same watch twice ?

    Why would I have done this ?

    And as you could read in the post from day 80 wher Adrian wrote : "Over the
    years-for cal. 52/53 it happened in 1904- the configuration of the
    complete movement was switched to its mirror image. A better power flow was
    the reason to do it. When this was done for cal. 57 is unknown to me."

    Well here you see the differences, and the reason why I bought the second one.

    Otherwise, the watches are almost identical

    with the same decoration on the dust cover, both 14K gold cases.

  • 8541panorama_fish_eye
    Master 〚✅〛

    Member since: 20/09/2007
    5 years

    Am I ever so glad that also Tonny has a C.57 that was built on a Monday
    morning.

    And whilst Adrian has ever so graciously replied to my post of yesterday and
    explained the reason and logic behind the flipping (mirror imaging) of these
    movements, I am still convinced that we need to give these same but different
    movements, different denominator names.

    Maybe I should start a petition.

    The Watch

    Last night I mentionedin Virtual Museum Day 80 post, that I had another Niello
    cased C.57 that I wish to share with you and that I would do it soon.

    That, was this watch.

    However, since Tonny shows noit one but two real beautys today - I think
    instead of 0.900 German silver an niello artwork, I need to offset Tonny's
    post with the opposite. No precious metal, finaly adorned pocket watch - but
    rather just plain old ugly steel.

    The Real Watch

    Well, she was in real poor state when I located her in Argentina.

    Now, other than that dial (with it's fantastic 24 hour aftermarket
    customization) if you look again at the above picture, you can see that it has
    no glass over the watch. In fact look even closer and you will understand why.

    The entire front bezel of this watch is missing!

    Enter the master case builder....

    A nice shiny gun metal steel new front bezel was manufactured - fits like a
    dream. Note, the brass ring inlay on the top of the new steel bezel. The
    entire case is sitting on top of the metalworkers hot steel fireing block.

    And the rear case back hinge had to be repared too - as that was three quarter
    way torn off.

    A better view of that front brass inlay.

    and did you notice, we have a replacement dial in there too? Well not really -
    not then, just that after market 24 hour removed.

    The movement a Cal. 57 and in fact the archives in Schaffhausen reflect that
    this watch was sold in May of 1900 to the French wholesaler Erbeau in Paris.
    From there it somehow at sometime travelled to South America.

    The finished watch - and here, we have a replacement dial on it.

    And look how nice Jeroen serviced the movement too.

    So from ugly - to shear beauty in my eyes - a very handsome Cal. 57

    This reminds me I had better check in with Jeroen and see how he is getting
    along on the rust bucket project. Hopefully tomorrow then an update on that
    project.

    Best regards
    Mark

  • ADRIAN van der Meijdenpanorama_fish_eye
    Master 〚✅〛

    Member since: 23/03/2001
    5 years

    Maybe a few words on the 'power flow'

    The energy that a watch needs to make it run is stored in the robust
    mainspring. When the watch is wound, the mainspring is becoming tighter and
    the energy is stored. Over time the mainspring is slowly unwinding for a small
    part, transmitting the freed energy over the train of wheels to the escape
    wheel. The escape wheel is blocked by the ancre or pallet fork. The pallet
    fork has 2 arms which contain a jewel at the end of each arm. On turn, the 2
    arms of the pallet fork touch a cam of the small escape wheel and the ancre
    (pallet fork) transmits the energy received to the balance spring. The last
    step is that the balance wheel starts to swing (oscillate) and the watch is
    ticking until the energy of the main spring has been used completely.
    Engineers can calculate how much energy is lost at every tick through the gear
    train by friction. the transport of energy from the main spring to the balance
    wheel is called the power flow. It appears that sometimes changing the design
    of the movement into its mirror shape may reduce the friction at different
    places in the gear train, making it more efficient and prolonging its
    lifetime.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Mark Flemingerpanorama_fish_eye
    Master 〚✅〛

    Member since: 07/07/2013
    5 years

    Brilliant rejuvination project Mark L :o)

  • Benpanorama_fish_eye
    Master 〚✅〛

    Member since: 05/05/2008
    5 years

    Great post and information - thank you for the detailed explanation of the
    power flow, Adrian!

    Best regards
    Ben
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