winding problem of 5004?

Hi all,
i have the 5004 for close to 3 months now. it is such an awsome piece i can't take my eyes off it everytime it is on my wrist :)

However, i have a question on the winding. I have an office desk job and if i wear the watch on that day it will be worn for >12 hours. I realized that wearing the watch is not enough to sustain the power reserve at all.

for example, if i put it on in the morning and the power reserve is pointing at the number 6, at the end of the day it will drop by at most 1/4 of a day's gauge. usually the power reserve dont move at all. that means wearing it for 12 hours i can only wind the watch by 1/2 day of reserve( i shd expect it to drop by 1/2 if i never wear the watch at all). is this what i should expect? i dont move around much, going to toilet breaks, lunch and dinner. :) as a result of this i need to put the watch on a winder. it feels weird to put it on a winder.

I have heard from others that their reserve gains by 4-6 days in just 1 day of wear. If that is the case definitely there is something wrong with mine? however if i put it on a winder it winds with no problem.

might be a "sticky rotor" but...

...if you're concerned your dealer can check it out for you. One reason that we don't deal with service issues on this forum is that it's difficult to diagnose mechanical problems electronically.

Keep in mind that the automatic winding system really isn't intended, I believe. to wind the watch. You should manually wind it until it shows a state of full wind. Then, if the watch stays more or less wound while you wear it over a period of time --you should be OK. The winding system is more for maintenance.

But it the rotor etc. don't serve a maintenance function, you either are extraordinarily sedentary (unlikely even for desk job persons) or the winding is a little sluggish. That can best be diagnosed in person.

Good luck,
Michael

Sticky rotor....

I have had this problem with just about every automatic watch. At certain times the watch will not wind like it did in the past. So I usually leave the crown in the out position and manually wind. And if it is a chrono I will set the chrono hand to start running. usually at some point the rotor unsticks and everything works perfectly again. In one case it did not and I sent the watch in for service.

The most efficient automtic winding

in my collection I feel is the 5004. I only have it a week or so, so perhaps I am a bit premature in my thoughts - but when I am wearing it at home (I am pretty active even when sitting doign "nothing") or walking in the hills or sitting in the garden.....the power reserve will gradually work its way from day 5 to 6 to 7 before the evening is out.

My Cal 8541 watches are equally brilliant in maintaining "power". Even just few gentle shakes and put back in the box keeps them going for at least 6 hours and even longer depending on the "quality" of the shake............

My Cal 80110 in the VC Ingenieur is equally efficient (apart from the time it completely stopped - which is still a mystery to me that was solved by IWC service in a few days without explanation).

So for me the In-house IWC movements appear* to be more efficient than some of the ETA-based ones in my collection.

Andrew

• I have made no specific side by side designed experiment challenges.

The most efficient automtic winding

another reallllllyyyyyy weird thing i notice.
If i take the watch off my wrist, hold it in my hands and gently shake it to and fro, in just 20 secs, it gained 1/2 day!!!!! so why is it not winding on my wrist?? :(

In my experience with your hand on the keyboard…

You don not make the kind of movement required to wind the cal. 5000 based, but if I move my hand up and down (rotating my wrist) just for talking or walking to pick up a paper or anything else the wing system is very efficient and gain a lot just with tiny moves. Try to rotate you wrist next to your ear, you must listening the pellation triggers working. If not, better take the watch for service at your AD.

In my experience with your hand on the keyboard…

i tried what you said, rotating my wrist and i can clearly hear the clicking sound of the pellaton winding.

I have the same issue with my 5004.

At first I thought I was just too sedentary but I recently acquired a 5001 and it always fully winds after a few hours of wearing. (I only take it off at night.)

My thoughts..

I have both a 5001 and a 5004 and both watches seem to have the same winding efficiency. In my day job at the office, they don't gain a lot of power but when I wear them during the weekend, they gain several days of power during the day.

One idea might be this; wear it on your wrist that you use to drink coffee. I drink loads of coffee so that should keep the watch wound :-)

Since we moved to a bigger office a few weeks ago, I sometimes run from one side to the other. This also increases the winding speed considerably.

Kind regards and keep enjoying the 5004,

Clemens

Weekends are better for winding :-)

I enjoy my 5001 and I have an office job too. During the weekdays (wearing it maybe for 12 hours per day) they gain around 1/2 day in power reserve.
Although during the weekends they can gain around 2 days...

5001s are good in knowing what happens because they have transparent back and you can easily see how the Pellaton works :-)

Cheers,
MR

winding problem of 5004?

Get a saw and saw some logs, 20 minutes later you'll have done some exercise, have a pile of logs and wound the watch up. The saw being a manual bow saw.

Make sure the crown is pushed in and the watch is on the wrist that holds the saw.

Another alternative method is fly fishing, real or practice. Again the rod and watch in /on the same arm.

Golf with a good watch on your wrist is not recommended I believe and likewise cricket and baseball come into the same bracket

winding problem of 5004?

Hi,
I am pretty sure if i hold a saw and move for 20 mins the power will go up. haha.
But look at jamesvann's post below, his 5002 gains 3-4 days of power in 12 hours of office desk work. mine will only goes up at most 1/2 day.
forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=4650680&rid=73949#msg_4650680

this seems to be a problem for many people owning the port/big pilot.