40mm Inge an Upgrade to 3227?

I don't own a 3227 or the CFI. But for those who do what would you do to improve it? Add crown guards? Make it smaller?
My point is this... Is the new 40mm Ingenieur an upgraded 3227? What do you think?

I am sure it will be lower priced than the 3227.
Other than that the Antimagnetic protection has been decreased (due to the dial I suspect) and no 80110 cal.
I think it is a simplified 3227 Alan and I see no wrong in this since we haven't seen the whole family yet for one thing.

I own the titanium 3227, so the comment I have will be even more true for the steel version. Although the 3227 is only 42 mm, it is quite high, and it wears bulky, a bit uncomfortable. My guess is that with the new 40x10 mm watch that problem disappears. As it has an antimagnetic cage it still is a real Ingenieur. That the 30110 movement is used can be seen as a hommage to that movement: being so sturdy and accurate, that is fully deserved. The crown guards are useful if you see the watch as a tool watch: a female colleague of mine got the crown of her watch ripped off when it got stuck behind a door post (don't ask me how she managed to do that). All in all, you can build a case that the new 40 mm Inge is an improvement over the 3227. Being a better seller than the 3227 may not be that difficult.

Kind regards,
Paul

I have already a 38 mm Ing. and so, I don´t need an ETA based upgrade.

The new one is definitely an upgrade, because it completes the "Junior Line".

Ref. 3227 was meant to compete with Rolex sport watches, this new one simply wants to open the door of luxury watches to new, young, wealthy, watch-fans - imho.

Btw, this one beats any Rolex any time:

Edit: the word is not "beats", is "destroys"

I think 'Junior line' sounds condescending.

Btw, I think the new 40 mm will be a good alternative for those who find the 3227 to large and/or heavy.

Hi Bas,

thanks for your comment, it helps me clarifying there's no intention to be somehow condescending from my side.

Let's call it a different way, what really matters is IWC completed this entry-level offer, now available in each collection. I think this is a strategic accomplishment.

Venturing to sound paradoxical, I believe the most interesting things IWC is doing throughout these years is about strategy.

I would read with great pleasure a book about these years at IWC.

That is an interesting observation, I agree with you. Drawing a grid, dividing each family into subcategories of corresponding types. Makes you wonder how the entry level for the Da Vinci will look like, probably in a bit more than one year from now.

Kind regards,
Paul

I know you have no intention to be condescending, but junior or entry-level sounds that way to me. Sounds like its not a real IWC.

I would prefer to call this new 40 mm the 'New skinny Ingenieur'.

Let's have some fun with this...How about, ' THINGENIEUR '

Completely agree with you, Roberto. :-)
On my wrist since it/she (?) has arrived and I have fitted the bracelet on November, 23rd. Endorphine pure, can now understand your enthusiasm at the CM in Geneva this year! :-)


FYU, an allegoric 'shipwrecked' Rolex ;-)

Kind regards

That's definitely a more cultivated definition, I like it.

Junior Line is not referred just to new Inge though, it crossovers the different collections available.

Anyway, who cares? Let's enjoy the new Ingenieurs! :)

LOL! Excellent picture Hajo. I have some wrecked Rolex too. Maybe I'd need an Aquatimer to go rescue them! LOL!

Btw, terrific Inge you have!

LOL

Personally I find the new 40mm and the ref 3227 to be two very different watches with very different aesthetics. The ref 3227 is iconic, and I don't anything else will cause it to detract from that.

Whatever the case, hope someone will bring a ref 3227 to SIHH for a on-the-spot comparison. Really excited the Year of the Ingenieur.

Hahaha! Clever!

Hi,

Not sure it is an upgrade.

Though nice, the 40mm is missing one critical piece befitting an all-conquering watch such as the Ingenieur: the inhouse mov't with integrated shock-absorption.

Just my humble opinion of course.

And judging from the responses on this forum, the new 40mm will be a hit.

Jon