• Apprentice
    30 Oct 2026, 1:18 p.m.

    Hi everyone, 

    This is an Mk11 that I am about to get but I have doubts on the originality of the whole and specifically the case back.

    Dial, case and movement all match a military issued Mk11. But the case back is not. From the feedback I got from another (excellent) community, it could have been put together in the 60s by the RAF Lightnings, maybe for the Saudi Air Force Lightnings. But the movement serial makes it from 1949, which is much older and matching a RAF issued Mk11 in the late 40s or early 50s. 

    Also, the IWC engraving inside the case back is cut and overlaps with the inside disk.

    So what do you think? Shall I stay away from this watch? 

    Thanks. 

  • Connoisseur
    30 Oct 2026, 9:33 p.m.

    Indeed the back doesn't belong to a mil. Mk. 11. Without having the back of the watch in flesh on the desk it is hard to decide, whether or not it is a complete fake back, a back from a camera watch with the markings skimmed or a civilian case back of the 1,726,xxx case number range.

    Could you please provide the case number engraved under the disc? It starts 1726, but the last three digits of the case number are not legible on your pics. With the full case number at hand, I can have a look whether I have some info on this specific case number. 

    Regards

    Thomas Koenig

     

  • Apprentice
    30 Oct 2026, 10:36 p.m.

    Thank you. 

    These are better pictures of the case back. The serial is 1726831. 

  • Connoisseur
    31 Oct 2026, 9:01 p.m.

    The watch is this or that way far from original. One possibility is the back is fake, the other is it is a skimmed camera watch back. In the first, less likely case, it is obvious the watch is not original. In the latter case the back is from 1967, what can't be a back for a 1950 Mk. 11.

    There are traces, that the back was skimmed, so possibility 2 is more likely than alternative 1.

    Th. Koenig

  • Apprentice
    1 Nov 2026, 10:05 a.m.

    Thank you so much. 

    So if I lean towards the second possibility (likely), someone at Lightnings in the UK paired in 1967 a case back for a Gun Camera with a spare of Mk11 (everything except the case back), to make this watch. Then eventually the case back might have been skimmed to remove the Gun Camera Lightnings marks?