IWC PORTUGIESER AUTOMATIC-is it genuine?

Hi-I've been offered for sale a IWC PORTUGIESER AUTOMATIC (52010)
The pictures are below-I am wary about the lack of paperwork available-does anyone have any opinion as to if it is genuine or not?
Thanks a lot!
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Looks good to me as well; the only thing I am wondering about is why it looks as though the case back has "3 BAR" on it twice...

Thanks very much for your advice I'll look into the 3 BAR thing and try to get hold of both the caseback and the movement serial nos (I understand they are different).
Thanks

I attach a link to new pics of the watch edge and back:

There is indeed a 2nd "3 BAR" engraving on the edge which is partly cut into by the indent on the baseback (presumably a feature that aids removal of the caseback).

Does this look "wrong"? Thanks!

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The watch looks strange to me.

As already pointed out, the "3 Bar" should only appear once and should be located next to the crown.

The font "IWC Schaffhausen" in the folding clasp is not the current one. Why should there be an old clasp on a new watch?

Then, the finish of the brushed rotor looks incorrect to me. The brush is not regular and with a wrong grain, and the golden medallion looks like it is simply painted.

Please take a close look at the black ceramic wheel of the Pellaton system. This looks like it has too big teeth. As a reference, you can compare this foto and zoom in properly.

I'd be very careful. The Pellaton winding does not look as it should and there are two or three other things which are dubious.
Compare the movement closely to the one shown on the IWC Website and you'll find out.

Two more things:
The original bottom is held to the housing by 6 little screws, while your pics show a bottom that has points to attach a tool to unscrew the whole piece in one.
And Reference 5007 comes with black leather straps only, not with a blue one.

In a nutshell: I massively doubt this watch is genuine.

I have no doubt that this watch is fake. There are so many wrong things with the movement and the case that it hurts my eyes. Must be expensive fake, one of the best I've seen.
Who will find ten differences will get the fake :-)
The real thing looks like this:

Fake:

That is by far the best fake IWC watch I've ever seen. This is really frightening. Someone put a lot of effort in this watch.

Tilo, I don't believe it is a fake, I could not imagine that anyone would go to such trouble to replicate a movement; the photos are just low quality. The "3 BAR" markings are curious, though.

What is curious, is, no matter how poor of a photo it is - I can't help that the photo reveals some really awful movement finishing.

The scary thing to me is - this is a real watch. If so, it's overall quality is rather poor. No matter how awful the photo may be - good craftsmanship, beveled edges, polishing and finishing should be evident - and there's none of it. It just looks like it was slapped together.

I think its a fake, all be it, a very good one. It just doesn't look right somehow. If you say there are no verification papers, one would assume then, no box or any other factory paperwork. Plus as mentioned earlier, this watch does not come in a blue strap combination from Schaffausen. And as Ive always said, if there is even a skerrick of doubt, dont buy it. You are forking out a lot of money to buy a classic IWC, so you need to be absolutely, 100% sure of its authenticity.
Others will come up for sale in the future.
Neil.

Hmm I keep an eye on fakes; there are 'replica' forums where you can track all the latest. The photis of 5001/5007 fakes that I've seen aren't anywhere close to this good; one look at the movement ad it is obvious.

Here is a good comparison on this watch - I hope it's ok to post this link.

www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/255295-AWARDED-U-B-IWC-7-Days-Portuguese-5001-amp-5007-Review-and-Comparison-B-U

Steven